German Car Forum

Thank you very much Raoul.

That's the kind of objectivity that is so hard to find in some of the members. Yeah sure you may like the Phaeton more (honestly, if I had to choose one, I'd probably go for the Phaeton too coz it looks a little nicer), but objectively (ie: without bias or personal preference) the LS460 is the better car when you look at the comparison in this magazine.

I'm not too fussed about the magazine giving the Phaeton the win because mass riots would break-out if the German mag' gave the Japanese car first place -- no suprise there, they have to give their readers what they want to hear/read. But irks me is the complete blinding-bias that many members here have against Toyota/Lexus. The comparison posted in this thread clearly shows the Lexus out-classes the VW in many categories, and most importantly, does so in the most critical categories....but to hear comments such as 'kitchen appliance' shows a complete disregard and unappreciation for the Lexus. Again, yeah sure you may like German cars more, and you may think anything Japanese or American is below you, but that shouldn't stop you from at least being somewhat objective and realising that the LS is a very good car in its own right, and appreciting that Toyota/Lexus can make some very good cars (even if the German's still do it better).

How does someone who's so narrow-minded and stubborn to refer to the Lexus LS460 as a 'kitchen appliance' even get the money to purchase a used-Phaeton ? .... similar question to the one posted earlier about rich folks being dumb in spending so much on a Bentley.

Don't care for either one, but I would probably go with the Lexus.