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Old 06-03-2006, 09:56 PM   #1
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The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

Mercedes-Benz GL-Class



Too big for its boot
By Gavin Conway of The Sunday Times

The story of the Mercedes-Benz GL is, inevitably, about size. This thing is so massively proportioned that even American observers have called it crass. The Los Angeles Times described it as a vehicle for “selfish rotters” and “morally retrograde”. If it gets that reaction in the land of the Big 4x4, what sort of welcome can it expect over here? To put the GL in perspective, consider that other Merc off-roader, the not-inconsiderable M-class. Well, the GL is 308mm longer, 25mm taller and 300kg heavier. Over here, it’ll make the Range Rover look diminutive by comparison.

Blame America. Everyone else does, after all. The GL was designed as an upmarket alternative to behemoths like the Lincoln Navigator and Cadillac Escalade. Mercedes knows this and that’s why it is noncommital about how many will be sold in the UK.

All that said, for a beast that weighs nearly 2½ tons, the GL acquits itself remarkably well. The speed-sensitive steering responds swiftly to inputs, and its precision makes it easy to fix a cornering line. That such a monster can be driven so swiftly won’t, though, endear it to other road users cowering in its shadow.

Airmatic suspension is standard on UK GLs, as is the Adaptive Damper System (ADS). In Sport mode the ADS helps tie down the GL’s body control through dips and surprise off-camber moments, but the ride predictably suffers. In Comfort mode the ride is really very good, but you do trade off a bit of body control.

For off-road going, Mercedes wanted to give the GL credentials to stand comparison with a Range Rover. So with permanent four-wheel drive there is a low-range two-speed transfer case with multiple-disc limited-slip differential, which can be locked for really serious going. And to match Land Rover’s Hill Descent Control the GL features Downhill Speed Regulation, which trumps Land Rover by letting the driver set the maximum descent speed. So like the Range Rover, the GL has vastly more off-road capability than 99.99% of owners are ever likely to need.

Climb aboard and you’d be forgiven for expecting stadium-class accommodation. In fact this massive Merc is something of a reverse-Tardis. Three six-footers sitting behind each other in the GL’s three rows will find legroom tight. Simply put, this car isn’t as spacious as it looks from the outside. That optional third row of seats folds away electrically at the touch of a button, which is kind of neat. If you need more carrying space, the middle row of split-fold seats can be stowed by moving the seat squabs forward and dropping the backrests.

It’s a quick old truck, too. I drove the 340bhp 4.6 litre V8 (yet to be confirmed for the UK), which does the 0-62mph sprint in 7.6sec with a top speed of 146mph. The 7G-Tronic gearbox is a good match for this lively engine, too, as it is less prone to hunting for the right gear as it does on smaller-engined M-class models. It also has a manual sequential shift feature via rocker switches on the back of the steering wheel. When you’re pressing on a bit this can be quite handy. You almost forget you’re driving an apartment block.

There will be three engines available including the latest version of the excellent 320 CDI, which will probably be the pick of the range. Merc’s first V8diesel for the UK, the 420 CDI, and a 388bhp 5.5 litre petrol V8 will also be on offer.

The GL models will be priced from about £50,000-£60,000. Mercedes says that there will be a universally high specification, so no different trim levels will be introduced.

Honestly, though, this has got to be the most pointless Mercedes launched here in memory. The only possible reason to buy the GL over the M-class is because you really need the optional extra two seats. And even then I’d urge buyers to look at the long-wheelbase Merc R-class, which has six seats and much more interior space.

This time, and for all the wrong reasons, size really does matter.

*VITAL STATISTICS*

Model: Mercedes-Benz GL 450
Engine type: 4663cc, V8 32V
Power: 340bhp @ 6000rpm
Torque: 339 lb ft @ 2700-5000rpm
Transmission: Seven-speed automatic

Fuel: 21.2mpg
CO2: 322g/km

0-62mph: 7.6sec
Top speed: 146mph

Price: £50,000-£60,000

Verdict: An unnecessary addition to the Mercedes range
Rating: 2/5

Date of release: September 1


*The opposition*

Model: Range Rover 4.4 V8 SE - £51,045

-For:Great style, image, unrivalled off road
-Against: Quality still an issue, only seats five

Model: Land Rover Discovery V8 HSE - £48,540

-For: Spacious seven-seater, very good to drive
-Against: Quite heavy and consequently very thirsty
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Old 06-04-2006, 12:14 AM   #2
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

Not a great review ...but it confirms everything several of us have already thought about this model even in the spy shots.

..Having said that, it's still not bad looking though.
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Old 06-04-2006, 12:18 AM   #3
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

This car is so exciting it puts me too sleep!
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Old 06-04-2006, 01:23 AM   #4
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

No rear seat room? What waste.... as was the case w/ the Q7 from my experience. I dont' expect the new X5 to have abundant rear leg room (especially w/ me up front), but people do by these monsters for space.
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

There is a mrket for this sort of car. It is certainly not for everyone, but if you need a lot of space for a number of people, if you need to move them in some fairly rough terrrain and if at times you need to move a large amount of goods in the same way, then you need something with a bit of style that can take you in safety and comfort to some social event...well, what else could there be?
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Old 06-04-2006, 05:04 AM   #6
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

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There is a mrket for this sort of car. It is certainly not for everyone, but if you need a lot of space for a number of people, if you need to move them in some fairly rough terrrain and if at times you need to move a large amount of goods in the same way, then you need something with a bit of style that can take you in safety and comfort to some social event...well, what else could there be?
What market is that?!

You have a big family in an affluent mountainous region, with a factory nearby that you run. That about sums it up.

My point is, there is rarely such a market and this car is pointless.
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

A lot of cars are pointless, it doesn't mean they don't sell!
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

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A lot of cars are pointless, it doesn't mean they don't sell!
Yes - that is true.

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There is a mrket for this sort of car. It is certainly not for everyone, but if you need a lot of space for a number of people, if you need to move them in some fairly rough terrrain and if at times you need to move a large amount of goods in the same way, then you need something with a bit of style that can take you in safety and comfort to some social event...well, what else could there be?
Well sure Boz, but lets be real here. The majority of GL's will never leave suburbia -- they will be the new "must have" accessory at shopping mall carparks all over the US, take the children to school or football practice, and to the beach house at the weekend.
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

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A lot of cars are pointless, it doesn't mean they don't sell!
Well, exactly. There's a market for this car for the simple fact that people will buy it.

Sure, it's stupid. Who needs all that luxury and all that off-road capability in one ridiculous package? On the other hand, who needs a car like the 911 Turbo? It's not as though you'd ever be able to enjoy half its prowess on public roads without breaking the law and seriously endangering other motorists.

In alot of ways, the stupid consumerist inside of me is turned-on by the new GL. It's the car for the person who wants to throw money at his or her wishes. "I want it huge, I want it luxurious and I want to ford rivers in it."
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

Ah, well I am based out in Australia, and we have a very wealthy rural aristocracy here: rich families of many generations wealth who like to breed; people who live hundreds of kilometres away from town centres; who need to travel on crappy roads to get anywhere...

This is a real market in Oz: my guess is 5,000 to 10,000 potential buyers. surely there are many people like that in the US? And if the odd soccer mum wants one...well why not?
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

We looked at it and honestly it is too small- not wide enough for 3 people to sit comfortably in a row, needs another couple of feet in length so there is ample room behind the second row. It did not seem much bigger inside than our ML500.
We need something this big because we often have company and when we go out there is usually 6 or more people and we have to take two vehicles. Also I need something that can tow a large trailer for the race car (the ML is limited to 5000 lbs) and I often need to move car parts.
I am now considering the International RXT (the CXT won't fit in the garage)
http://www.navistar.com/site_layout/xtfamily/rxt.asp
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OMG, that truck is huge drronh!

Looks as if MB haven't filled every segment, that need a bigger truck!

I'm not very impressed the GL isn't that much bigger than the ML, makes it a bit pointless!
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

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I am now considering the International RXT
...how tasteful and modest of you drronh


...I'm sorry, I don't understand this vehicle.
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

Wait, are you being serious or is that a joke? That is a monster of a truck. As for the GL, I'm just not impressed at all. It just looks so generic, making the ML look so much better. Sure there's a market for it (those that want to carry people but will not be seen dead in a minivan). However, like most SUV's, the third row seat are generally too small for adults to sit comfortably. The only SUV that can do that is the Chevy Suburban... although not in good built quality.
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

I still can't understand why this car is coming to the UK, it would be in a class of it's own over here, and at the moment people have bad feelings towards SUVs because of environmental reasons. For us the ML is thought of as a large SUV, wonder what people will make of the GL!
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

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...how tasteful and modest of you drronh


...I'm sorry, I don't understand this vehicle.
I mostly want to pi$$ off my neighbors who park their Ford F150s in their driveway because their garages are full of junk, despite the fact that they have 3 car garages and live in a gated community of multimillion dollar homes. The deed restrictions state you can park your vehicle in the driveway or in the road as long as it is not a commercial vehicle used in business.
Plus I want to be able to tow a 48 foot stacker trailer with 2-3 race cars, a golf cart, gear and parts to the race track without breaking a sweat.
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Re: The Mercedes GL-Class is too big and too American for it's own good.

If you are going to buy a truck, you might as buy a proper truck!

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