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Old 08-18-2007, 02:10 AM   #326
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Did I just hear the sound of a new transmission working its' magic?
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Old 08-18-2007, 04:32 AM   #327
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

Oh man this is clearly not an automatic gearbox!!! This is clearly what we all eagerly waited for...Finally...

The tester is clearly not a driftman! And the car seems to be quite sporty, quite oversteering-oriented, and no ESP here!!! Nice move! Looks like a good locking differential, this.

This's car gonna be a killer....
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:13 AM   #328
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Thank you god for giving us Audi!
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:39 AM   #329
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

yep that is not automatic..and i highly doubt that its a MT..
so wohooo
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:01 PM   #331
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But that makes no sense... Why to have the shifter situated in completely different place in auto-models?
Do you want shift "column shift style"? I don't.

It makes sense for an automatic transmission, especially when you can probably manually shift gears using buttons behind the 'wheel. For a manual, placing it in the center console makes more sense.

Remember, I am guessing here.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:04 PM   #332
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

Nice video, Deutsch.

And it sounds like a manual transmission!
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:20 PM   #333
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

It really sounds like a manual transmission...this would be awesome... A Mercedes with more then 500 hp and manual transmission...
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

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But that makes no sense... Why to have the shifter situated in completely different place in auto-models?
I can see your point: why having two different shifters, in two different places, for the same car, only depending of the gearbox?
I've rarely seen that. The S or ML have colums shifter, because there are not MT available, whereas the C-Class has normal shifter, for auto and MT (event if it is a "fake" shifter for the auto, because fully electronically controlled).

How can Mercdedes justify the two solutions for the same car? It forces them to developp two center consoles, and so one....

On the other side, the 3 series has also two different interiors (idrive or not), and for exemple the ML, GL and ML (the S also I think) have a US-center console with big cupholders whereas the European versions have different ones...

So, why not? It allows the automatics to have more space, supplementar glove-box!
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:09 PM   #335
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

Sounds like a SMG/DSG to me. You can hear the gearchanges and the gas still 100%
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

^yep thats what i thought as well..does not sound like a MT..
and def not a AT
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

Perhaps its the new electromagnetic something or other gearbox mercedes benz is supposedly developing??? sure sounds like something crazy????
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:23 PM   #338
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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

LOL, it sounds just like my car ...Im being honest ..
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:47 AM   #339
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Do you want shift "column shift style"? I don't.

It makes sense for an automatic transmission, especially when you can probably manually shift gears using buttons behind the 'wheel. For a manual, placing it in the center console makes more sense.

Remember, I am guessing here.
Actually, my question was more about the economical aspect. Is the low demand for manual gearboxes in the E-Class enough to justify the two different setups?
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:56 AM   #340
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Is the low demand for manual gearboxes in the E-Class enough to justify the two different setups?
Very important issue, IMO.

Except MB are developing manual (or even DCT) for E63 AMG, then shifter in the center tunnel can be easily applied to other models as well, while auto shifter can be mounted to the steering column.




Then another question appears: is it really economical to move the shifter to the steering column, and not applying some space-saving "e-shifter" ala BMW (X5, 5er, 6er etc) or Jaguar (XF) in the central tunnel where manual shifter usually sits?

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Old 08-19-2007, 07:56 AM   #341
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Actually, my question was more about the economical aspect. Is the low demand for manual gearboxes in the E-Class enough to justify the two different setups?
Good question.

Manual transmissions in E-Classes are very rare actually. They're non-existent on the bigger engined models for one and the few that are sold on the lower end models are usually bought by people who do a lot of towing or someone who wants an E-Class with a manual, generally.

Perhaps, and this is a serious thought now, perhaps there won't be a manual option on the next E-Class? But I seriously can't see that occurring at the same time since there is a very small demand for manuals on the E-Class. We'll have to wait and see.

But to answer your question, I have not thought about it this way and financially speaking it would be silly to do this.
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:31 AM   #342
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I think these are new:





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Yeah its definitely a Mercedes alright. Seems like slope downward too much in the side view.

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OMG

Check it out...
is this real ??
i belive it is.. in that case GODDAMN MB is serious about this 80´s interior style..

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Re: 2009 E-Class (spy pics & details)

That's got to be real! The details are too exact for it to be a guess.

I love it! It's a hybrid of the current E & 5-series interiors. It looks solid.
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kinda looks like this

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i belive it is.. in that case GODDAMN MB is serious about this 80´s interior style..

Dam, I do not like the 80's retro interior styling. Why has MB retain the foot operated parking brakes when the majority of their rival has gone for the electronic ones? It seems like MB has retained the traditional clock on the instruments panel and they have gone back to the traditional dial to indicate the engine temp and fuel level. This is seriously retro.
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man they CAN NOT drop the foot operated hand brake..its a MUST...
the day they do that..it will no longer be MB..
as for the dials.. i kinda like that retro look..
a analog clock and analog gauges infront of your eyes..
and more detailed and modern info in the Command screen..seems like a good idea to me
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It certainly aint pretty!

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i love the styling of the interior , very classic , very neat work by mercedes-benz, just brought them back where they belong. very nice!
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