Porsche 911 (991) - First Drives/Test Thread

-=Hot|Ice=- · Mar 28, 2012

Drats, beat me to it soup.

330CIZHP · Mar 29, 2012

Rofl

centurion said: ↑

i applause nissan for continually improving the gtr. The only thing is dislike about it is the snap over steer tendencies that i cannot get to grips with when i drive the car. Sure i manage to wrestle the car through corners but i am never 100% comfortable with the turn-ins.

and oh this is in real racing hd 2 :d

Soup · Apr 7, 2012

Soup · Apr 8, 2012

Centurion · Apr 9, 2012

I saw a 991 the other drive and it sounded incredible. I am happy Porsche has reworked the acoustics. The 991 almost sounds like a 997 GT3.

Soup · Apr 11, 2012

DeDe · Apr 15, 2012

AutoZeitung FIRST TEST - Porsche 911 Carrera PDK Cabriolet

First test with a few performance numbers, full results will be available with next issue's SL vs. 911-comparison.

Equipment: PCCB, PDK, Sport Chrono, PASM

Weight: 1535 kg (Carrera PDK: 1497 kg)

0-100 km/h: 4,8 s (Carrera PDK: 4,3 s)

0-180 km/h: 13,9 s (Carrera PDK: 11,8 s)

Vmax.: 284 km/h

Braking 100-0 km/h, cold/warm: 32,9 m/32,8 m

Average fuel consumption: 10,3 l/100 km

You can feel the power-deficit of 50 hp compared to the Carrera S, the PDK shift back 1-2 gears very often, even on the slightest uphill. Acceleration is far behind the 911 Carrera S PDK Coupé, it is also much slower than the Carrera PDK Coupé tested by Italian Auto recently. Ceramic brakes are brutal.

:t-cheers:

Centurion · Apr 15, 2012

So basically you are better off buying a maxed out Boxster S that will all around be a mor fun convertible experience than an entry level Carerra Cabrio.

Human · Apr 16, 2012

Porsche 911 Cabriolet Auto Express

[ Related Photos: Read more: Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet review | Auto Express ]

We hit the road in Carrera S version of the all-new soft-top

RATING - 5 Star

Convertibles always mean compromises, right? We’ve driven the new Porsche Carrera S Cabriolet on UK roads for the first time to see if this is still true.

The hood is made up of four composite panels, with fabric stretched over the top, and has an identical silhouette to the coupe’s roof. A magnesium frame means it’s lighter than most soft-tops, while the composite panels improve refinement. The roof can raise or lower itself in 13 seconds at speeds of up to 35mph.

Under the bodywork is the same steel and aluminium chassis as the coupé, with a longer wheelbase, wider track and shorter overhangs than the previous 911. This car is also 60kg lighter than before, and looks more dramatic and muscular than any other 911 Cabriolet to date.

Drop the roof and you can enjoying the wonderful multi-layered sound from the sports exhaust (a £1,772 option). The 394bhp 3.8-litre flat-six engine provides speed to match the noise: 0-62mph takes only 4.5 seconds, or 4.3 seconds with the £1,376 Sport Chrono package, which adds launch control.

Plant your right foot and the surge of acceleration is sensational, even from low revs. However, the difference between the 345bhp Carrera and 394bhp Carrera S tested here isn’t as big as you’d think.

The new electro-mechanical power-steering is not as communicative as the previous hydraulic set-up, yet the 911 still feels razor-sharp. Any differences in handling between the coupé and convertible only become apparent when you push right to the limit on a race track.

Adjustable suspension that can be switched from supple to rock-hard means you can drive this car every day, on motorway trips or B-road blasts. And with the roof down, an electric wind deflector ensures buffeting is suppressed, even at up to 70mph.

For an alternative review of the latest Porsche 911 visit our sister site carbuyer.co.uk

Read more: Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet review | Auto Express

klier · Apr 16, 2012

Centurion said: ↑

So basically you are better off buying a maxed out Boxster S that will all around be a mor fun convertible experience than an entry level Carerra Cabrio.

Never, ever. Entry level 911 cabrio is still faster than E93 M3. Plenty of power....

DeDe · Apr 17, 2012

[scans] AutoZeitung - Porsche 911 Carrera PDK Cabriolet

:t-cheers:

DeDe · Apr 22, 2012

Carrera S PDK Cabriolet - the first performance numbers by AutoBild

Weight: 1598 kg (Coupé: 1484 kg)
0-100 km/h: 4,3 s (Coupé: 3,8 s)
0-200 km/h: 14,5 s (Coupé: 13,2 s)

P.S.: new SL500 0-100 km/h in 4,5 s. Wow!
:t-cheers:

Soup · Apr 27, 2012

tristatez28lt1 · May 10, 2012

MotorTrend Review of the 2012 Carrera S Cabriolet:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests...2_porsche_911_carrera_s_cabriolet_first_test/

Let's get the worst thing about the new 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet out of the way: Its proximity key sensor doesn't work that well. That's a petty complaint, but it's the only complaint I had after logging a few hundred miles with the top down, in both rain and beautiful sunshine.

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What's so frustrating about it? When you wrap your hand around the 911 Cab's door handle, the car unlocks, but then you have to wait a few seconds after plopping in the driver's seat to start the car, or else one of the gauges will flash, "Key not recognized." That's odd, because the car unlocks when you approach it, clearly understanding that the key is in its vicinity. Even odder, I found the quickest way to get the key recognized was to hip thrust in the direction of the steering wheel while twisting the faux key. That faux key, remember, remains on the left side of the steering wheel, where Porsche has famously left it all these years because it was quicker to start the car that way in a Le Mans race. Waiting for the key to be recognized, then, seems like a glaring oversight.

With that out of the way, let's be clear: The rest of the 911 Carrera S Cabriolet is fabulous. Fabulous in a way that makes you think, "Yeah, I'd be satisfied with this for a long time." Fabulous in a way that makes you make grand statements that you'll probably regret later, like: This is one of the best sports cars on the market right now.

Consider that, despite weighing 228 pounds more than the hardtop Carrera S, the Cabriolet is only negligibly slower. A figure-eight lap requires 24.3 seconds (0.2 second slower) and generates a 1.03 lateral g average, which ties the hardtop. The Cabriolet takes 0.1 second longer to reach 60 mph and the quarter mile (3.8 seconds and 12.1 seconds at 116 mph, respectively). The 911 remains, then, the only production car we've tested that, with 400 horsepower or less, can reach 60 mph in fewer than 4 seconds. Much of this performance we can attribute to the latest version of Porsche's seven-speed twin clutch (the oh-so elegantly titled Porsche Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, or PDK). Launch control and its instantaneous shifts (with perfect rev matching) are great for test numbers, but PDK also offers drivers better flexibility and control over twisty mountain roads.
On mountain roads, the Carrera S is an encouraging car, such that the idea of driving it top-down in the rain seems smart. It's something beyond the sum of 400 horsepower, superlative grip, and an exhaust that barks and burbles so sweetly. It's more than the roof, which, at speeds up to 31 mph, retracts in 13 seconds. It's more than the electric steering, which disappointingly lacks the liveliness and feedback of Porsches past, but remains as precise as ever. (Attention, Porsche: Please address this.)

It's also more than Porsche Torque Vectoring, a dubiously titled feature that uses the rear brakes to limit torque delivery. During a left-hand turn, for example, the 911 applies braking pressure to the left wheel, limiting torque there and dragging the car around the corner. The process is largely unnoticeable, and gives the 911 its constant and welcome neutrality, a sense that the chassis will never betray you. (Power sliding is still possible, but takes some determination).
It's the sum of all these pieces that makes the 911 so special. And we haven't even talked about fuel economy. You might ask, "Why would you? Who cares?" Customers of this car will, and not because it returns a front-pack 19/27 mpg city/highway, but because the 911 has stop-start, which occasionally turns the engine off at stoplights. That feature can lead to interesting conversations, like the following one I had with a woman who was on a bicycle. "That's a quiet idle," she said. "Oh, it turns off when you stop." I answered. She looked and didn't say anything. I waited a beat. "To save fuel," I slowly added. "Oh, it's a hybrid?" she asked. "No, no, no," I gushed, but then the light turned green.
I'd have explained more, lady, but there was open road to explore.

tristatez28lt1 · May 10, 2012

Specs:

2012 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet
BASE PRICE $108,950
PRICE AS TESTED $140,375
VEHICLE LAYOUT Rear engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door convertible
ENGINE 3.8L/400-hp/325-lb-ft DOHC 24-valve F-6
TRANSMISSION 7-speed twin-clutch auto.
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3482 lb (38/62%)
WHEELBASE 96.5 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 176.8 x 71.2 x 51.0 in
0-60 MPH 3.8 sec
QUARTER MILE 12.1 sec @ 116.0 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 98 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 1.03 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 24.3 sec @ 0.76 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY FUEL ECON 21/27 mpg
ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY 160/125 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS 0.83 lb/mile

Soup · Jun 7, 2012

Centurion · Jun 9, 2012

Call me a nut case but I find the tri-exhaust tips to be rather cool.

K-A · Jun 9, 2012

AHHHHH!! That's nice. I'm not even talking about the Gemballa parts, I'm still focusing on how great the 991 itself looks.

I've seen a few on the roads now, and it's really a beauty, like a 997 but very subtly different, yet masterfully MUCH better looking.

Soup · Jul 12, 2012

Soup · Jul 13, 2012

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