Discussion in '911' started by Merc1, Nov 9, 2011.
Yes, of course.
He doesn't seem to be a very happy chappy
The whole article will be uploaded and posted today, winner is.......
2nd Nissan GTR
3rd Porsche 911
They can't be serious. I mean the R8 is a great, practical and comfortable supercar with precise handling, wonderful engine, but unless they've tested the facelifted 2013 model with double-clutch gearbox (which they apparently did not, lol), I can't see how they came up with this result.
Can't wait to read the article!
So, he says it lost some of the idiosyncrasy and character that defined previous generations. This he explains is due to the PDK, eletcric steering (very good but still a change to get used to) and for me the surprise that he says it feels less rear-engined which some may think is a good thing and at EVO they think not.
Progress and changes to the chassis may have alienized the car for those are used to old school 911 !?
Evo being evo, they probably tested the manual.
Funny story - at the back of every Evo mag, the last few pages is this table of data of all the cars they tested including a '+' and '-' point about the car and being the nerd I am I spend hours pouring through it. When it comes to 911s, for almost every new generation, the '-' is always in one way or another about how it is less '911' than the previous generation.
PSM wasn't turned off in this video
steering wheel doesn't center after a quick turn ? is that true ?
The praise for the 991 seems never ending. At first there were so many worries about it departing from it's tail-happy heritage, but if you ask me, I don't think we have seen it all yet. The 991 Carrera and Carrera S will probably look tame to how far the GT3 will push the boundaries of the 911.
991 Carrera S PDK vs 997.2 Carrera S PDK. The 991 is considerably faster.
The chassi of the 911 is clearly more advanced, look at how more settled the car took off without the rear dipping.
It does look very flat and stable when he gets on the gas.
The new 911 is really a masterpiece. It makes the 997 appear floaty in comparison.
I do somewhat like the 997 taillights more. On an otherwise smooth and classic design, the 991's taillights take some getting used to, as they're by far the only "modern/techy looking" and very angular form on the car.
Rear "dipping" or weight transfer to the driven wheels would actually help accelration.
I agree. The 997 has the more slender and athletic appearance from the rear. Resale value of 997 GTS models will be brilliant because it's a 997 body with 991 power, it will be a classic.
What if the car already has sufficient weight at the rear to the point that the car would reach diminishing returns at the cost of front-end traction and stability?
Good question, but front end traction plays no role in a RWD car accelerating in a straight line, so there is no cost as far as going down drag strip is concerned.
Two, does the Carrera S have sufficient traction to put all of it's 325lbft of torque down in first gear from rest without smoking it's tires or traction control intervening? I don't know for a fact, but I doubt it.