Porsche 911 (991) - First Drives/Test Thread

Discussion in '911' started by Merc1, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. DeDe Contributing Member

    Yes, of course. :D
  2. Cashmere Well-Known Member

    He doesn't seem to be a very happy chappy

    [video=youtube_share;yUFjEwsGqYI]http://youtu.be/yUFjEwsGqYI[/media]
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  3. Soup Well-Known Member

    The whole article will be uploaded and posted today, winner is.......

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    2nd Nissan GTR
    3rd Porsche 911
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  4. DeDe Contributing Member

    They can't be serious. I mean the R8 is a great, practical and comfortable supercar with precise handling, wonderful engine, but unless they've tested the facelifted 2013 model with double-clutch gearbox (which they apparently did not, lol), I can't see how they came up with this result.

    Can't wait to read the article!
  5. Human Persue Your Dreams

    So, he says it lost some of the idiosyncrasy and character that defined previous generations. This he explains is due to the PDK, eletcric steering (very good but still a change to get used to) and for me the surprise that he says it feels less rear-engined which some may think is a good thing and at EVO they think not.

    Progress and changes to the chassis may have alienized the car for those are used to old school 911 !?

    :t-cheers:
  6. Sunny Well-Known Member

    Evo being evo, they probably tested the manual.

    Funny story - at the back of every Evo mag, the last few pages is this table of data of all the cars they tested including a '+' and '-' point about the car and being the nerd I am I spend hours pouring through it. When it comes to 911s, for almost every new generation, the '-' is always in one way or another about how it is less '911' than the previous generation.
  7. Soup Well-Known Member

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  9. Soup Well-Known Member

    PSM wasn't turned off in this video

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  10. Sayyaaf is Just a member

    steering wheel doesn't center after a quick turn ? is that true ?
  11. Soup Well-Known Member

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  12. Centurion Contributing Member

    ^^
    The praise for the 991 seems never ending. At first there were so many worries about it departing from it's tail-happy heritage, but if you ask me, I don't think we have seen it all yet. The 991 Carrera and Carrera S will probably look tame to how far the GT3 will push the boundaries of the 911.
  13. -=Hot|Ice=- Well-Known Member

    991 Carrera S PDK vs 997.2 Carrera S PDK. The 991 is considerably faster.

    [video=youtube;Vmt4W5SrLJI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vmt4W5SrLJI#![/media]
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  14. Centurion Contributing Member

    ^^
    The chassi of the 911 is clearly more advanced, look at how more settled the car took off without the rear dipping.
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  15. -=Hot|Ice=- Well-Known Member

    r

    It does look very flat and stable when he gets on the gas.
  16. K-A Banned

    The new 911 is really a masterpiece. It makes the 997 appear floaty in comparison.

    I do somewhat like the 997 taillights more. On an otherwise smooth and classic design, the 991's taillights take some getting used to, as they're by far the only "modern/techy looking" and very angular form on the car.
  17. Sunny Well-Known Member

    Rear "dipping" or weight transfer to the driven wheels would actually help accelration.
  18. Centurion Contributing Member

    I agree. The 997 has the more slender and athletic appearance from the rear. Resale value of 997 GTS models will be brilliant because it's a 997 body with 991 power, it will be a classic.
  19. Centurion Contributing Member

    What if the car already has sufficient weight at the rear to the point that the car would reach diminishing returns at the cost of front-end traction and stability?
  20. Sunny Well-Known Member

    Good question, but front end traction plays no role in a RWD car accelerating in a straight line, so there is no cost as far as going down drag strip is concerned.

    Two, does the Carrera S have sufficient traction to put all of it's 325lbft of torque down in first gear from rest without smoking it's tires or traction control intervening? I don't know for a fact, but I doubt it.

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