OFFICIAL Official: Porsche Panamera

Discussion in 'Panamera' started by south, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. martinbo Global Moderator / Editor

    Interestingly, for those who care, the 3.6 litre V6 in the Panamera is an all-new 90 degree V6 with direct injection and represents a distinct departure from the previous narrow-angle "VR" 3.6 litre sourced from VW.

    400 Nm for a 3.6 litre, naturally aspirated V6 is bloody impressive. A nice, muscular engine that'll make for an amazingly enticing entry-point on the Cayenne mk2 in particular. It aslo, of course, does wonders for the appeal of the entry-level Panamera.
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  2. Sayyaaf is Just a member

    Martin: I have a tech question for you, I heard or read somewhere that there is a trade off between torque and HP, if want more Torque/L you'll have to go for lower HP/L, how correct is that ? And how can BMW/Porsche/Audi/Ferrari .. etc break those limits ?
  3. Foxfire Active Member

    It's interesting they didn't use the Audi sourced 3.0, 333hp supercharged V6. That engine, coupled with an electric motor goes in the new Touareg Hybrid, so I guess it will wind up in Cayenne Hybrid and most likely the inevitable Panamera Hybrid. Why have two V6 engines in the lineup? Or will Porsche eschew the Audi V6 in favor of this one for the hybrids?
    I must say, this new V6 from Porsche would be my preference, since it almost matches the Audi version in terms of hp and torque (300 hp vs 333hp, 400nm vs 440nm), yet does this without FI. Slap a supercharger or low-lag turbos on it and I can see it being in the S version of Panamera/Cayenne by the time of facelift, instead of the current V8.
  4. martinbo Global Moderator / Editor

    Foxfire, maybe it is a very similar engine just sans supercharger and with a longer stroke? 90 degree V6 with direct fuel injection... maybe Porsche could've leveraged from the S4's engine as a base?

    Only time will tell...
  5. Sayyaaf is Just a member

    Since Martin didn't see my questen I will answer it my own :D


    Torque vs. Horsepower

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  6. PanterroR Well-Known Member

    Panamera V6 video:



    :t-cheers:
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  7. CarGuy Well-Known Member

    Panamera S, 4S & Turbo; Rain Acceleration & Stopping

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  8. Sayyaaf is Just a member

    Pan Turbo Vs R8 v10



    Drifting from inside :D

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  9. Human BMW's my Brand

    ^^ Nice vid's thanx Sayyaaf. Never were a fan of the R8 styling wise...as a package including looks and practicality the Panny is my choice(y)

    As said before, after my visit to Porsche Center JHB two weeks ago, the Panamera has HUGE presence and a sophisticated yet menacing stance. Not to mention it's a tour/techno de force! The Turbo's engine is just phenomenal, a real materpiece - pity I could not test drive one @ PC-JHB....

    Have to visit the family in Al Ain to get behind the wheel of a certain Mr. S's Panamera:D
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  10. Sayyaaf is Just a member

    Anytime Human, anytime.
  11. Human BMW's my Brand

    ^ :)

    In the Qatar drifting vid, it looks so easy. The steering input from the driver is minor and the car takes commanded direction so precisely. No effort, and under+oversteer looks to be so easy to handle, this car would make you feel the real Schumacher. Steering precision 'shrinks' the car even on the video whilst judging by the drivers body language, body roll looks non-existing!

    Martin's analyses on the vid would be interesting...hallo, Martin?
  12. Untertürkheim New Member

    Does this mean that this 6 cyl will have dry-sump lubrication as other Porsche engines do?
  13. Centurion Contributing Member

    Unless the powerplant is slated for engine duty in a pwerformance orientated car, I'd be surprised if the has DSL. The Panamera/Panamera 4 is not fast enough to generate lateral forces powerful enough to disrupt the oil pan.
  14. Untertürkheim New Member

    The S, 4S, and Turbo all use DSL, so apparently the Panamera can pull the Gs to necessitate it, and the 6-cyl should be able to do even more due to the lower weight.
  15. Sayyaaf is Just a member

    I heard its the 4.8 V8 with 2 cyliders chopped = 3.6L V6 ... so it should have DSL if they kept changes to minimum.
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  16. klier Member

    Panamera S will be faster around a corner than the Turbo...

    I can give mine: take an M5 or W212 E63 if you want to drift. It looks terrible in the Panny :D That car isn't made to drift at all.
  17. Centurion Contributing Member

    We're talking about the V6 Panny, not the S.

    I guess it does have DSL in the event that someones does want to beat the hell of the car. There are plenty of videos showing how far people have pushed the Cayenne, and Porsche would probably not want to risk any of their engines collapsing if someone like Walter Rörhl gets their hands on it. Performance is alfter all the ethos of Porsche.
  18. Sayyaaf is Just a member



    You were saying klier ? :D :D
  19. Centurion Contributing Member

    Klier obviously didn't get enough sleep last night, thanks for reminding him;)
  20. Untertürkheim New Member

    In the case of cornering, the difference in power between these cars should not affect much.

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