Discussion in 'A6/S6/RS6/Allroad' started by purplehenk, Nov 30, 2010.
WOW, big surprise. I thought the Audi would have kicked a$$ in the interior as well.
I forgot to mention that the cars tested were all 4WD versions (Quattro, x-Drive and 4-Matic).
You mentioned road stability, was these attributed to quattro or something else?
Out there on the public road, exposed to the elements the new A6 can easily be confused with an A4.:eusa_thin
I have to agree with you on that one, though it's size might lessen the likelihood of this happening. A similar effect happens with the 7er being mistaken for a 5er.
I have a keen eye, so it's a given I won't mistake the A6 for an A4.
F01 confused with the F10? Not likely
According to AMuS, the Audis' high rating in this area can be attributed to its' excellent electromechanical steering system, great brakes and the new crown-geared sport differential (as also used on the RS5).
But please note:
It was not a runaway victory for Audi. These cars are really so close in the sum of what they offer that it all really comes down to personal taste and the dealer experience when it comes time to empty the wallet.
I thought it may have been the new quattro system in combination with it's improved weight distribution or the sportdiff as you said.
Jimmy, did they comment on the differences between transmissions as each use something different. I'm interested in hearing whether Audi's S-tronic is as good as the best automatics in the business.
Of course it would be close, these three have been doing battle for years but though always close I don't recall Audi ever winning in the past A6 so they must have pulled out all the stops this time round. Well done Audi. :eusa_clap
In rating the transmissions, all 3 candidates were awarded 24 of 25 possible points.
Thanks Jimmy, is it possible for you to either provide a link to this test or even scan it in and if not too much trouble could you state the rough spec of car, i.e. SE or Sports and whether they used some form of adaptive suspension.
New AMS-comparison: the A6 is the best
In the lastest issue of Auto Motor und Sport there's a comparison between the new Audi A6 3.0 TDI Quattro, BMW 530d x-Drive and Mercedes E 350 CDI 4-Matic.
Briefly: the A6 won the test. I'll post the results later.
Regarding Magazine tests, in Car & Driver out here, the F10 lost to the outgoing A6 in a comparison, so I think it goes without saying that the Audi might be the Magazine darling this time around (or, to put it better, "Audi is the Magazine's new BMW".
Seems like they're giving each other a great fight. I hope the A6 does well, as variety on the roads is great, and it'd be more boring if everyone bought E's and 5's.
It lost because they felt A6 was the sportiest of them. But the new 5-series is the best allrounder, at least compare to last A6. Thats a fact, saying otherwise is just stupid and wrong.
TBH, I don't really care about any tests made by carmagazines/programs, I read them but that's all. There's so many of those tests where the highest paying company wins. But surprised the BM was last :eusa_thin
It was close but maybe the reason why Audi were first and BMW last was that this test was conducted exclusively with awd versions.
That's what I'm saying. NO WAY is the *last* A6 better than the new F10.... NO WAY. Subjectively: Sure, it can very well be. Objectively, as an all around "Luxury Sedan": No way.
This is why Magazine Tests are retarded, they drive Luxo Sedans and dictate the winnings by who wraps around cones the fastest, and who can whisk around the Nurburgring with better handling and road feel.
The amount of text these idiots waste on "steering feel" on Premium Sedans is ridiculous. Tell me about interior quality, interior ambiance, build quality, body construction and materials, fit and finish, comfort, sound DB's, safety, etc. THEN tell me about the sportiness.
The winner of these categories shouldn't be determined by steering feel. It's like Car Rags don't switch up the formula for winning from Supercar Tests, to Luxury Car tests.
I want my car to coddle me from the road, I don't want to feel or hear the road. I want a sports car to feel the road. I do want precise, and intuitive steering to a degree, and I do want a good German Engineered hybrid ride of Sport and Comfort, but not to the nth degree on a Luxury Sedan regarding sportiness. BMW's obviously getting the picture, because they made a very obvious effort to inject some "Luxury Sedan" into the 5-Series.
The new A6 is being subjected to increasing scrutiny by the automotive press. In the last issue of Autobild, the A6 3.0TDI Quattro was matched against to BMW 530d Xdrive. And again, the Audi came out on top by an extremely thin margin. Autobilds' verdict was that if price was not a factor, both cars are very evenly matched.
In terms of the soothing, cocooning sort of sensation that many seek in a luxury executive sedan, Autobild makes brief mention of how the BMW has an advantage over the Audi. It's extra heft may be disadvantageous with regard to nimbleness, but it appears to give the BMW a more solid insulated character.
Were I in the market and confronted with having to choose one of these cars, I would be so undecided !
If BMW and Merc offered AWD in the UK with these models then I too might find it hard to decided but they don't and for me the decision is easy. That said when I first drove the new 5er I was blown away by how improved it was, not necessarily it's driving because this had always been tip top but the general quality of the interior, the suppleness of the ride with adaptive suspension and the handsome design of it's exterior. It is without doubt my favour BMW at present.
That said the new A7 ticked all the boxes the 5er did and also included quattro but missed an all important thing for me which was 5 seats that's why the A6 is top on my list as a replacement.
I just got the latest copy of CAR magazine. They've reviewed the new A6 and their comments are as follows:
"Even so, this is a compelling car with a fine drivetrain , sure-footed chassis and enough attitude to make me almost describe it as fun. As subtle and fluid as a 535i with BMW's Adaptive Drive chassis? No"
"it won't disspoint but, for those of us who still drive for fun, the 5 Series edges it, if only just"
Overall, I'm fairly impressed to with the new A6. Its a very good car and is as close to the 5 Series as ever.
^^That is a fairly good result. I don't think anyone expects it to better the 5er in sheer fun, but coming close is surely a great result. I actually do like this car.