Official: BMW GINA Light Vision

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Why do so many of you guys only understand "design" as being solely about its styling?


Design encompasses far more than just styling -- this vehicle has been entirely conceived to exploit the characteristics of this skin -- I don't think anyone is treating this as a styling forecast -- it is a materials/technology design exercise.

It is a concept vehicle for heaven's sake -- this is really an example for designers ...not consumers.

No production BMW is going to look like this -- so you don't need to lose any sleep over it.

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I just read the article on auto-motor-sport.de BMW GINA: Stoff zum Träumen Auto + Produkte bei auto motor und sportwhere they mention, that this is in fackt an "old" concept that was even developed before the current Z4.
There are a few hints that support this statement:
1. the interior design looks a bit "dated" and pretty similar to the one in the X-Coupe-Concept
2. the outside design, especially the side-one is very similar to the one on the current Z4
Take a good look at the sharp line the rocker panel forms. On the current Z4 (and the 1er) it is very strong, while i don´t think well see that one on the next Z4
3. They did not (at least not until now) mention anything about the drivetrain etc.

But nevertheless I like the design and the idea beneith it. And I don´t worry about the stiffness and the crash-performance. The outside panels have very little support for the strukture...

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A great designer will be able to achieve both or at least show a hint of some potential new 'styling'. The CS was a concept too i believe.

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bangle did it again
provoking
controversial - love or hate it

i think that this could be easily compared with the introduction of the Xcoupe concept - it was controversial and it showcasted the new direction
the design may be not ground breaking, but its improving flame surface in the correct way, most importanly proportians are really sexy - even better as the ones of the Z4, but i somehow doubt that the front is actually pedestrian secure - can anyone shade light onto that ?

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My apologies to Bangle. I should have watched the video first before making those comments about him. Bangle rocks! This is a small step in what could become a giant leap. We'll all remember who started it all. Kudos Chris! Awesome stuff.

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I must say that this is a true concept car, a fascinating object that is about pure fascination.

Now that I've had time to digest the design (not to mention time to sober up), I think this car leaves me with an even more positive feeling than when the CS came out.

I love the headlights, even if they aren't "real". If the Z series comes out with that kind of aggressive shape, then I'm sold on the front. As for the rear, I love how they have incorporated one of my favorite BMW bootlid... the 6er's.

What people fail to realize is that even if this is a hint of the future, that's all it is. For those of you who forgot how the Xcoupe looks like... allow me to remind you:



Yes, the Z4 was derived from this concept, but you cannot tell me that the Z4 and Xcoupe are a copy and paste job

^^No, I guess even Bangle realized, after a good night of digesting his vodka, that he could not possibly do that to BMW, and reworked it big time to come up with the Z4!! C'mon! Even I could do something better looking than that thing!

The X-Coupe itself is reaally upset Bangle messed him up so badly, just look at the angry rear it has...

Gina is very very far from looking as bad and stupid as that, though. You almost can see the Z4 (that we saw camoed) through it by toning it down.

i like the front window though..
it looks like old roadsters...

Well i'll give 1 thing to Bangle: he does Ugly tastefully

Q&A with Chris Bangle of BMW Cars

By Nargess Shahmanesh-Banks

BMW is not a follower. Under the design reign of Chris Bangle, it provoked a highly emotive reaction a few years ago by a fresh and courageous take on premium car design, and by introducing the world to ‘flame surfacing’. The car maker is certain to raise a few eyebrows again with GINA, an animated cloth car that looks ahead to the future of the automobile.

Where did the initial idea for GINA originate from ?

The concept was the outcome of a project at our Designworks that addressed how non-car designers would design a car. It was then transported to the main studio in Munich and developed further into a demonstrative car.

How did you come to a cloth outer skin conclusion ?

The cloth can change your mind about what a car can be. It also makes its own perfect geometry. The flexible textile offers designers a significantly higher degree of freedom in terms of design and functionality. Plus, it does what the exterior is supposed to do which is to protect the car, give it the aerodynamics and the right aesthetic.

You say GINA has been the brand's doctrine for over a decade, but what is the philosophy behind the car ?

GINA, the German acronym roughly translates to geometry and function in an infinite number of alternatives. It was born out of the idea that change doesn’t have to come from a fixed approach.
We are going to have to find new ways to adapt to how the world sees cars, what they want from them and over what lifespan. And the part that will take over is that you can consume but you have to be responsible. In this context, we have to offer a product that is more about lifestyle and personalisation statements. The idea that variation drives consumption has been one of the dominant factors of the world of design. We need to get some of the individuality of the consumer as well as the producer into the product.

How do you introduce personalisation ?

There is no real difference in how GINA lives with you, but it differs in terms of what it could be for you, how you could change things, even to the point where you can change the shape of the exterior.

What impact did GINA have initially on the company ?

It was like a lightening rod triggering discussions on where this could lead in terms of production and manufacturing. We questioned if mass assembly is the only way. It lead to rapid manufacturing, a way of digitally creating car parts for a fraction of the cost, that were stiffer and it made them available to more customers which we never thought we could do.
The bonnet of the Z4 M was our first digitally produced piece of hardware for a production car. This technology is called GBK, GINA im Blechkleid, or GINA in metal cloths.

Has GINA influenced BMW design ?

Absolutely. When you enter GINA, the car wakes up around you and you can choose what functions to display. The BMW iDrive system is about the spirit of the GINA philosophy.
Also, the team worked with an origami master to explore ways of giving metal the origami treatment. In the Mille Miglia concept interior, for example, we have created a 3D structure from 2D sheets using special laser cutting and folding processes.

How will GINA impact on the future ?

If our idea is that cars can only look like one thing then we can only make them in one way. But if we free our minds, then we can perhaps start to look at methods that use less energy, require less chemicals, cause less waste and are more flexible in getting products that customers want.
We have to decide what we want from our cars. It would be wrong to say BMW’s future is cloth cars, but it does make you think about cars differently - that's the whole idea behind it.

The headlights and the curving above the headlights will be on the z4 as seen on the spyshots. Im pretty sure the rear lights will be similar.

I really like this concept, except the fact that it wrinkles when the door opens, hideous!

Off-topic: X-coupe

X-coupe was an extremely important design study for BMW: not only showcasing "flame surfacing" (which became THE styling theme for the future BMWs) but also demonstrating another significat design feature BMW are extremely keen on: ASYMMETRY.

:t-cheers:

It's interesting, for sure. This concept is an extreme example of a new technology. A much more likely incarnation of this would be a mix of both traditional car body and this flexible skin. Say, a next generation 6 series with a sheet metal body, but with front and rear spoilers that changed shape with speed, to alter aerodynamics.
Can be for more than just looks in the end...

Can some of the mods please open a GINA picture thread, and move all the high-res pics (poste by shonguiz) there, please.

Thanks.

I would like to know WHEN this car was designed. Look at that interior and iDrive controller....BMW is well beyond that in the production cars. It almost looks like this design was made shortly before or shortly after the Z9.

What happened here? It looks like the GINA is at the wrong spot on the timeline..


Z9 GT 1999:


Concept CS 2007:



GINA 2008:

Idrive has a secondary role in this car. It could also not being there at all. It's not about iDrive here.