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OFFICIAL Official: 2013 Toyota GT 86

Discussion in 'Toyota' started by Shining Star, Nov 26, 2011.

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mini_cooper4 Well-Known Member

I know there are people interested in buying this car on this forum. I expect it to be priced at at least 25.000 euro in Europe as it's already priced 25.000paunds in the UK.
When I imported the first 7 Mazda CX-7s in BG and probably the first in EU my dealer in the US got suspended from MAZDA for 100.000$ and got a warning that he will be suspended for another 1M$ if he sells one more car for export as he was ruining the upcoming EU premier and market of the CX-7. I guess it will be the same case with SCION/Toyota as they are priced a lot cheaper over there...
I still work with some dealerships over there and I still have discount prices with shipping companies in the US. So I can import a car for you but it would be good if we import at least two cars.
//PM me if interested//

mini_cooper4, Feb 28, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

If true I'd really really look in importing this car directly build it into a track car. I am drving to Geneva and am going to see what EU pricing info I can get there.
I went too my nearest Toyota dealer he said to me to expect it about 35.000 €. He has no clue about what he is talking.

However I do not believe the pricing is true. These numbers are only seen in the soource. I think it is just a the programmer that put in such a number too easily change it later when the pricing is officially released. 25,840 $.





Levi68, Feb 28, 2012

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330CIZHP Well-Known Member

My apologies. I should have validated first. I checked the Scion US website and there is no pricing it. Definitely, looks like this pricing was a hoax and was photoshopped.

330CIZHP, Feb 28, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

So nice that the best rims on the market are going to get GT86/BRZ fitment.

Levi68, Mar 5, 2012

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hoffmeister_fan Well-Known Member

Stateside price confirmation for Scion FR-S: $24,930 6-speed manual; $26,030 6-sp auto

Source: Scion Officially Confirms New 2013 FR-S Coupe's Pricing and Specs, Starts from $24,200* - Carscoop

Prelim specs:

To the admininstrators: is it possible to re-title this thread "Official: 2013 Toyota GT 86/Scion FR-S" to minimize any confusion?

hoffmeister_fan, Mar 22, 2012

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hoffmeister_fan Well-Known Member

EPA mileage for the FR-S/BRZ

6sp manual (MPG): 22 city, 30 highway, 25 combined
6sp auto (MPG): 25 city, 34 highway, 28 combined

EPA Releases Subaru BRZ and Scion FR-S Fuel Economy Numbers - Carscoop

To be honest, I was expecting a bit better mileage.

hoffmeister_fan, Mar 22, 2012

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330CIZHP Well-Known Member

Any price on the Subaru BRZ yet??

330CIZHP, Mar 22, 2012

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hoffmeister_fan Well-Known Member

Besides what you've posted in the BRZ thread, I'm not aware of anything yet. I'm sure it'll be revealed soon enough. Probably at the NYIAS.

hoffmeister_fan, Mar 22, 2012

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Guibo Well-Known Member

Autocar's Steve Sutcliffe has a drive but sadly still only on track.

Steve Sutcliffe said:

Test date 24 March 2012
Price as tested £24,995

What is it?
Perhaps more than anything, what the new Toyota GT 86 demonstrates is that what car enthusiasts think still matters – because if it didn’t, Toyota would never have built this brilliant car in the first place.

When the board sat down to discuss the project at the beginning of 2007, the idea would have been dismissed in a heartbeat had the opposite been the case. Instead, though, Toyota decided there and then to exact an image makeover in order to appeal to a younger kind of customer – and the GT 86 was designated to spearhead that renaissance.

The result is now almost upon us. We’ve driven the car in prototype form twice already and declared it to be bursting with potential. And here, again, we drive it in its virtually finished specification, ahead of its scheduled UK on-sale date of June.

Being an enthusiast, you’ll already know that the car is a joint venture between Subaru and Toyota, and that it has a 2.0-litre boxer engine beneath the bonnet, with 197bhp and 151lb ft on tap. You’ll know, too, that the car is rear-wheel drive, has a six-speed manual or semi-automatic gearbox, and that it weighs a mere 1220kg.

What’s it like?
But what you might not realise is how perfectly these elements gel to deliver a driving experience that is addictive, to put it mildly. Because, after all, nothing can prepare you for just how pure the GT 86 is to drive; how sweetly it steers, how well balanced its chassis is near the limit, how crisply its brakes respond, or how incisive it feels when snapping from one direction to another.

Not that the GT 86 is in any way vicious or aggressive in its reactions. Quite the opposite, in fact, and that’s a feeling that arrives the moment you climb aboard – and discover a cabin that’s been tailored almost exclusively towards the driver. The driving position is nigh-on perfect, the seat, wheel, dials, pedals and gearlever being so intuitively located that it takes but seconds to feel right at home in the GT86.

Press the button to fire it up and, instantly, you’re greeted by the inimitable thrum of that boxer engine, which responds beautifully to a ‘wap’ on the throttle. Select first and the lever moves with a mechanical precision that’s rare, if not unique in a production Toyota, and as you move away you become aware that the ride is firm but controlled – with just the right amount of compliance; not too stiff but not too soft. And even at 20mph you can tell that the steering feels rather delicious, too.

The first surprise comes when you open the throttle fully to discover that, while reasonable, the amount of acceleration on offer isn’t actually that startling. Toyota claims a fairly modest 0-62mph time of 7.7sec with a top speed of just 137mph. The second surprise arrives when you realise that this matters not one iota, because the moment you aim the GT 86 at some corners, the chassis comes alive, the penny drops and the full significance of what Toyota has achieved with this car becomes apparent.

And at that precise moment, you may even begin to believe that the car you are sitting in could be one of the most important machines of the past 10 years. Because on one level the GT 86 is simply a great little car to drive, one with such a fantastic level of chassis composure that it actually encourages the driver to play around with it where circumstances permit. And that’s a bright enough realisation in itself.

Should I buy one?
But on another level, the GT 86 represents something rather more than the sum of its parts. In a way, it represents the future as far as the ordinary car enthusiast is concerned. It’s that good. And the fact that it’ll cost just £24,995 when it goes on sale in June is even more reason to celebrate.

Be in no doubt, the GT 86 is a true game-changer for Toyota. Let’s at least hope that one or two more manufacturers follow suit.

Toyota GT 86 review - Autocar.co.uk

Guibo, Mar 27, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

The GT 86 is a true game-changer for Toyota. Let’s at least hope that one or two more manufacturers follow suit.

Yes, Honda S2000, Mazda RX-7, Nissan Silvia and BMW Z2.

Levi68, Mar 28, 2012

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Soup Well-Known Member

Soup, Mar 28, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

This car is not even out but already so many projects and tuned and race models are out. This car will have extreme after-market support, and that is what Tada wanted. Just amazing what will be available. I may consider some functional bodykit if I get this car.

Levi68, Mar 29, 2012

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Centurion Contributing Member

Tuners will make a lot of money from this car. It will be a hot it for boosting power to circa 250hp which will be nough before you need to swap out too many parts.

Centurion, Mar 29, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

Centurion said: ↑

Tuners will make a lot of money from this car. It will be a hot it for boosting power to circa 250hp which will be nough before you need to swap out too many parts.

HKS Supercharger
Power: 250 PS

Levi68, Mar 29, 2012

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Centurion Contributing Member

Did that upgrade entail a gearbox change or have Toyota and Subaru been nice enough to equip the car with a gearbox that leaves margin for tuners?

Centurion, Mar 29, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

Centurion said: ↑

Did that upgrade entail a gearbox change or have Toyota and Subaru been nice enough to equip the car with a gearbox that leaves margin for tuners?

No gearbox upgrades. There is some margin left. The gearbox is Aisin AZ6, used in Honda S2000, Mazda MX-5, Mazda RX-8, Lexus IS200, Toyota RS200. Apparently it is the one that was used in the Lexus/Toyota, manufacture specific.

Levi68, Mar 30, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

More power!

Remember that GT86 powered by a supercharged IS-F 5.0l V8 engine?

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Levi68, Mar 30, 2012

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330CIZHP Well-Known Member

Actually, I don't think it is supercharged. I believe it is a naturally aspirated higher revving tuned version of the IS-F V8 mated to a 6 speed manual gearbox.

Pretty much the dream GT-86,

Levi68 said: ↑

More power!

Remember that GT86 powered by a supercharged IS-F 5.0l V8 engine?

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330CIZHP, Mar 31, 2012

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Guibo Well-Known Member

Another editorial from Sutcliffe.

Steve Sutcliffe said:

Thu Apr 05 2012

Why the Toyota GT86 is so important

The Toyota GT86 matters because it is quintessentially a car designed to appeal to the common man (and, of course, to the common woman). Although it may not be bargain basement cheap, it is nevertheless affordable compared with many of the cars we drive. And compared with most bona fide sports cars it is nothing less than the bargain of the century.

It is in other words not merely another exotic, esoteric, expensive machine, designed only for the very wealthy to enjoy. It costs just £24,995 – about the same as a well-specified family hatchback – has just 197bhp – ditto – yet in reality can deliver a driving experience that’s up there beside the very best.

From the way its steers to the way it stops, and even more so the way it slices so cleanly into and out of corners, the GT86 is every inch as much fun to drive as a Porsche costing four times as much. You emerge from its neatly designed cabin wearing just as big a smile as you would do having just driven a Maserati.

In its way, the GT86 is probably MORE invigorating to drive than its vastly pricier competition because you don’t expect so much from it in the first place. It’s like New Year’s Eve syndrome, that one night of the year from which expect so very much, yet all too often get so very little. In that context, the GT86 is like a chance meeting with friends that just seems to work somehow; such rare occasions are often the ones you remember most fondly.

What’s also important is that this car emanates not from a small British sports car company, or even from a manufacturer such as Porsche, but Toyota. All conquering, all powerful Toyota.

That a business as vast and profitable as this has produced a machine as nimble and clear focused as the GT86 is, whichever way you look at it, pretty extraordinary. That it has done so while collaborating with a rival company, ie Subaru, is even more unusual in this day and age.

Let’s hope both of them pave the way for a simpler, cheaper, less complex breed of car for the future – one that most of us, and not just the very well off, can enjoy. Think of it as the perfect antithesis of the Bugatti Veyron that ends up sitting in an air-conditioned museum, never having turned a wheel, being glimpsed at just occasionally, by invitation only from its anonymous owner. Now do you see why this car really means something?

Why the Toyota GT86 is so important - Tester

Guibo, Apr 5, 2012

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tristatez28lt1 Well-Known Member

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tristatez28lt1, Apr 5, 2012

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