Discussion in 'C-Class' started by ich, Dec 22, 2010.
Cheers for that. Any more info? Just a power bump or something else?
I'd guess just a bump to bring it inline with E/S.
I wish Mercedes would stop debuting their interesting world debuts at off-site events and debut them at Detroit. The SLS AMG e-Cell is nice, but we've seen it since the summer. Although Edmunds says that MB has a C-class fl somewhere in cobo....
Finally ready to trade in the CLK?
And whatever you do...Don't get the double fogs (if available).
What's hiding behind the NAIAS coat check?
I can't believe it, the C-Class is finally complete. Interior + engines, its two biggest issues. I still wish the C300 had about 260hp though.
I think MB is trying to make more money here. The 4 banger engine probably costs less and they will keep the same price as the 2010 C300. The C350 will get a price increase since it is more powerful now. The C300 4MATIC is to keep some in the snowy regions happy as an essential option. What we need is the C250 CDI by the end of this year. I just don't know what is holding them back. Come on MB, make it happen before the new 3er shows up.
I think Mercedes should go all out. I notice that now there are no more "luxury" versions? If that is right then they're really going for what people actually buy, which are the sports.
The C250 should have 4matic as an option though, IMO.
I want a C350 4Matic too, but people simply don't buy enough C350s to warrant it I guess. I saw a C350 4Matic, but then I noticed it had a Canadian license plate on it.
I'm guessing the coupe will be C300, C350 and AMG version only. I can't wait to sit in the coupe at the dealer this summer, could be my next car.
Well you know that is in interesting thing. I see why people drive older Mercedes, you just get so used to them and you don't want to give them up no matter how degraded the driving experience (age etc.) is vs a newer one. If I get rid of the CLK it will be for a used CL550, not a C350 Coupe. If I go the new route I will likely keep the CLK. I really want like an 08-09' CL550.
A good Benz is always a keeper. It it's well maintained, it'll always look new, or classic.
.... And the resale will suck so bad, it'd be pointless to sell it.
True, but the CLK Cabrio actually enjoys higher than average resale for Benz. Well it would if I hadn't been piling on the miles!
Does anybody know how to get higher res versions of these pics?
Mercedes-AMG Official Global Website
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I've yet to see a US press release with any info about engines.
It will be a real shame to make all these improvements and not have competitive engines. If they keep the same, then MB will lag behind in power and efficiency.
I thought MB already did. The C250 ( 1.8l turbo 4 cyl) , C300 4MATIC, and the updated C350 ( 302hp) are the ones. I hope they will add the C250CDI by the end of 2011 by the time the new 3er show up.
^They really need a good 3.0 though.
I agree. I think they either update the 3.0l from 228hp to about 240hp or make it bi-turbo to 300hp . In either case it could happen in 2012 or 2013 , just before the new W205 appears.
As of right now we don't get the updated 300 hp C350 in the US. It is the old 268hp version. Whether the new 2012 gets it, I have no idea. We've yet to get a V6 with direct injection. The C300 is currently 228, which is anemic when compared. The 350 should have gotten up to at least 315 hp, IMO as the competition has been well past 300 hp for a while. Then you have a sensible spread of 50+ hp and can justify pricing differnces. Heck 205/ 255/ 305 would make sense. Which is exactly why I don't think MB will do it. I am assuming that the US is getting the 4 banger? If so, I think you just scrap the 300. I just don't see the point of offering two v6 engines that are that close. You can't honestly tell me that there is any cost difference in making a 3.0 and 3.5 liter engine. So, value price the 350 and take a bold step in capturing a large part of the market share. Oh wait, that makes sense.
302 in your top V6 is a little behind the curve. The only advantage I could see is offering a lower price than the 335 due to non-turbo.
Bottom line is competitors like Infiniti are offering their best V6 without having to pay a premium to get it like MB is doing. Plus MB doesn't have an advantage in content or prestige. The g37 is a flat awesome car and great bang for the buck. The V6 is freakin unbelievable. This segment is way too competitve to keep repeating old habits. Take freakin control.
Yes the 2012 C350 gets 302hp, i.e. the new DI V6.
That isn't the bottom line anymore, they have G25 now with a lot less power so you now have to pay more for the G37. Furthermore power isn't everything as the G37's V6 is a loud, corse mess when pushed.
^That and MB costumer will is totally different from infiniti one for sure even if he is shopping for an entry level Benz sedan.