New VW Scirocco / Iroc Concept

Discussion in 'Scirocco' started by Yperion, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. EnI Contributing Member

    Re: New VW Scirocco.

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    Official VW press release:

    Volkswagen Iroc

    Comeback of a successful idea:
    33 years ago at the international Motor Show in Geneva Volkswagen presented a sensational coupé. It was compact, distinctive, agile, spacious and affordable. Volkswagen called it the Scirocco. The car struck the nerve of the times: More than half a million first generation Sciroccos were produced worldwide. Turning point: In August 2006 the largest car maker in Europe is showing the reinterpretation of the successful Scirocco idea in a world premiere – the Iroc concept.

    New VW sports car design:
    Like the first Scirocco with its visual straightforwardness the Iroc also marks a stylistic turning point through its progressively designed radiator grill and a distinctive sensuality of forms. The concept of both Volkswagens is closely related, even though the vehicles are separated by over three decades: The first generation Scirocco was an attainable dream car for many people. Because the Scirocco was an automotive superstar of the 70’s, styled by Giorgetto Giugiaro and equipped with four full-fledged seats, a proper trunk, large hatchback and a lot of self-esteem. The Iroc concept takes up this fascinating idea again.

    Purebred sports car instead of a classic coupé:
    However, in contrast to the original Scirocco the Iroc is no classic coupé, but a progressively designed sports car with an extremely long roof and a comparatively steep rear end. This has two advantages. Firstly: The Iroc features sharp proportions. Especially when viewed from behind it becomes immediately apparent that this long roof together with side window sections is situated on very broad and powerful shoulders. The Iroc thus achieves a waist of flawless sports car theory. Secondly: The Iroc also has room in back for two adults and ample luggage. On balance the provocatively designed Iroc combines a high degree of suitability for daily use, pure driving fun and expressive design into a Volkswagen that as a possible series-production vehicle will also be very attractively positioned in terms of price.

    Viper green meets dark carbon:
    The Iroc concept exhibits numerous subtleties in detail. Paint example: Although anything but retro styled, the green used is an homage to the first generation Scirocco for which this exact shade of color was especially typical starting with the 1976 model. Then as now it’s called “viper green metallic”. This glaring green of the Iroc is especially effective in combination with the high contrast black shades of the concept. Carbon example: The central roof element is composed of dark tinted glass; this element is supported by a structure covered with carbon. An integrated lengthwise support is also a part of these materials. The side sills of the Iroc also have a carbon surface. The structure of the sill visible from outside continues seamlessly into the interior.

    Sexy dimensions:
    With its short overhangs the Iroc efficiently utilizes a wheelbase of 2,680 mm for the space provided inside. The concept is 1,400 mm high, 4,240 mm long and 1,800 mm wide. The light-alloy rims specially designed for the Iroc and 235 tires are implemented in 19 inch size.

    Twincharger and DSG:
    The Iroc is powered by a TSI engine, referred to in-house as a Twincharger. Shifting tasks are handled by the DSG direct shift gearbox. About the Twincharger: First employed in the Golf GT in 2006, TSI engines are currently the most efficient four-cylinder gasoline engines in the world. The combination of compressor and turbocharger shows the path to the future. The compressor compensates for the typical powering up weaknesses of turbo-only gasoline engines at low rpms. The turbocharger in contrast packs a mighty punch at higher revs. The combination of both superchargers in large-volume production engines is the only one of its kind in the world. The TSI version used in the concept achieves 155 kW / 210 hp. In principle, a large range of supercharged engines are conceivable for the Iroc that could start significantly under 110 kW / 150 hp. But there’s one thing every engine theoretically employed in the Iroc has to guarantee: Driving fun.




    Complete press release & pics: HERE

    Pics also available: HERE and HERE
  2. EnI Contributing Member

    Re: New VW Scirocco.

    I'm shocked you guys missed this news. This is all over the net already!

    Yannis???? ;)

    Btw, I hope VW won't toned down the design on final product - like they did on Tiguan (vs. Concept A).
  3. Deutsch Well-Known Member

    Re: New VW Scirocco.

    They probably will. I was a big fan of the original Scirocco, this one will take sometime getting use to (in concept form at least). Design wise I like it, the color kind of f's everything up though.:t-banghea
  4. Yperion Well-Known Member

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    VW hired Chris Bangle or something? The front part is hideous...:bonk:

    No word on the volume of he engine so my guess is that this is not the 1.4 TSI but one of a larger volume, perhaps a 1.6 lt one.
  5. Deutsch Well-Known Member

    Re: New VW Scirocco.

    A frog w/ teeth. :D
  6. EnI Contributing Member

    Re: New VW Scirocco.

    I kind a like it. It reminds me of Mitsubishi Evo X + Volvo C30 + new Fiat Bravo.

    I love dynamic shapes - loved Concept A & Concept R. Hope VW would bring such exciting designs to life. I hope Audi will do it to: Novulari was a great concept: I have high hopes for A5!
  7. siko Well-Known Member

    The front is so-so and a little weird but has alot of potential IMO!

    The rims and the rear are pretty darm cool tough...

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  8. Centurion Contributing Member

    Wow VW have gone nuts. C30 concept rims and a mitsubishi front.:confused:
  9. klier Member

    Re: New VW Scirocco.

    They must have secretly. I like the front. Very different and radical from those stupid boring VWs we see today.
  10. Yperion Well-Known Member

  11. PanterroR Well-Known Member

    Re: New VW Scirocco.

    Absolutely! Great looking car!(y) (y)

    :t-cheers:
  12. Mr. M Well-Known Member

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    The interior is very, very nice.

    I'm surprised VW would come up with this - rock on!
  13. EnI Contributing Member

  14. Sayyaaf is Just a member

    My god .. what a beautiful hot hatch !! now couple this to the 2.0TFSI engine & DSG box and we have a winner ..

    Roberto, what do u think of this adventrous design ? although there is alot of inspiration from other manufacturers but the final execution is just marvellous.
  15. bmer New Member

    The rear and interior look great but the front looks weird. I think it needs a smaller, less radical and more VW-style grille and a bigger VW emblem which should be placed on the grille.

    Edit: I made a quick chop.

    I would like it to look more like this:
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  16. Yperion Well-Known Member

    That's better.(y)
  17. Centurion Contributing Member

    It is killer hot and it actually has proper rear seats and not a bench just like the Volco C30. Design wise I think they were a bit inspired by Honda and their radical Civic.
  18. Mr. M Well-Known Member

    I agree completely. :t-cheers:
  19. Yperion Well-Known Member

    VW’s 2009 Iroc Coupe -Scirocco successor to premiere at Paris

    Wolfgang Bernhard has barely warmed the seat as Volkswagen chairman and he is already attacking the market with products he hopes make the German automaker cool again. Look for proof in the reborn Scirocco coupe—dubbed Iroc—which makes its global debut in Paris in September.

    If Bernhard’s plan comes to fruition, it will do for VW what the TT did for Audi—provide the German carmaker with a modern, relevant and desirable image-building model.

    Iroc is planned for North American showrooms by the end of 2008, the same year VW launches its Land Rover LR2 rival, the Tiguan.

    The original Scirocco was the highlight of the VW lineup when it was launched in 1974, an affordable Giugiaro-designed coupe that could seat four, and—in top-of-the-line, 16-valve 2.0-liter form—hold its own against some of the best two-door offerings of the day. It bolstered VW’s image and helped lay the foundations for some of its most successful years on record. With the Iroc (the name uses the middle four letters from the word Scirocco), VW hopes to recapture that old Scirocco magic.

    The basic ingredients look right. The New Beetle notwithstanding, Wolfsburg has consciously steered away from throwback design cues for Iroc. The prominent brushed-aluminum single-frame grille won’t win any beauty contests, but the angular headlamps, distinctive clamshell hood and heavily flared front-wheel arches imbue Iroc with plenty of presence. Other distinctive features include a heavily raked windshield, pronounced shoulder line, shallow side glass and plunging roof-line. About the only weak point is the hatchback rear, which lacks the flair and imagination of the rest of the exterior. Iroc is similar in length to a Golf GTI, but is 1.5 inches wider and fully 3.3 inches lower.

    Iroc runs on a straightforward front-wheel-drive mechanical package. Wheelbase and track widths are extended slightly over the Golf GTI, giving the coupe a confident stance. The show car sports 19-inch wheels, but we expect 18s in production form.

    VW is vague on exact specifications, but the new coupe likely will be powered by three engines: a supercharged and turbocharged 1.4-liter, 210-hp four-cylinder Twincharger gasoline engine; a turbocharged 2.0-liter 240-hp four-cylinder; and a 3.6-liter 280-hp V6, the latter likely offered with 4Motion all-wheel drive. Transmission choices should include a standard six-speed manual and optional seven-speed Direct Sequential Gearbox.

    VW will likely build about 60,000 Irocs annually, priced at about $26,000 in base trim.


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    Note: There is no word in VW's press release about the volume of the engine so my belief is that this is a new engine , possibly a 1.6 lt TSI, and not the 1.4 lt TSI.

    I will explain. The 1.4 lt FSI has 90hp(=64.3 hp/lt) and the 1.6 lt FSI has 115 hp(=71.9 hp/lt) that means that the 1.6 FSI is (71.9/64.3=) 1.12 more efficient.

    Now the 1.4 TSI has 170 hp(=121.4 hp/lt) so the 1.6 TSI will have 121.4 hp/lt x 1.6 lt = 194.3 hp but since the original 1.6 lt FSI was 1.12 times more efficient we get:1.12 x 194.3 = 217,6 hp which is very close to the 210 hp that VW announces.

    Of course the calculations i made are approximate but should be close enough.
  20. martinbo Global Moderator / Editor

    Cool thoughts on those engine stats Yannis!

    How gorgeous is this concept car? Hey Roberto, why don't you stick this one into your superb concept cars thread? I love the interior and reckon the exterior looks are spot on. Pity about the "monster green" garish colour scheme. Ugh. Why not something a bit more restrained and classy? Like white. ;) :D har har!

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