Discussion in 'New MB Models / Vehicles' started by PHYBENZ, Jan 29, 2009.
Well…looks like a 4x4…especially on the first photos. Don't know what I should say about this. Was never a fan of the Viano and loved the VW Multivan T5 much much more…
As well as facelift it could be testing other drivetrains etc.
VW Transporter/Multivan is also due for an update
They're not bad. I once drove the predecessor, the V-Class. What a POS that was. Makes the W163 ML look like a quality car! :eek2:
The Viano was pretty decent - if it wasn't a manual transmission version. The cockpit is so cramped in terms of knee space that everytime you shift your left knee would hit the dashboard when you engaged or disengaged the clutch.
Overall though much better than the V-Class and very practical. You see a lot of them here as taxis or urban delivery vans.
No they are not bad at what they are supposed to be doin,but they are too far from dropping any interest
I'm thinking the same
I think these don't do MB's rep any good. Quite poorly finished, and not soo reliable... The Multivan is better finished, more attractive...but even less reliable!
The first Vito (and V-Class) were simply put the worst vehicles ever to bear the star. Absolutely garbage. The pre-CDI models were unreliable as to the point of making a Peugeot look rock-solid. And after 2 years they were rusted to the bones.
I never understood how they could let them roll out of the dealership with such a low level of quality. Did they ditch the whole test-phase back in the time? The current Vito/Viano is way better, in every aspect, still not really worth the star for me.
The V-Class was actually just a more upscale version of the Vito van, which was made in Vitoria, Spain. Mercedes at that time made two mistakes.
First they decided that a "luxury version" of the Vito would be a good idea. It was at the time but the V-Class was poorly built and wasn't luxurious at all. The interior was the same as the Vito with a few strips of cheap-looking wood here and there. Nothing fancy at all.
The second mistake was the Vaneo. Someone up at the top thought this car without a clear market would be useful. It wasn't. To this day I still have no clue why they made it. :t-hands:
At least the V-Class looked pretty good for a mid 1990s van...
I tend to disagree with the "it looked good" part...
This here is end of 80's/begin 90's and looks much much better.
Also, making the Vito a V-Class sure was a bad idea... But making the Vito that bad is a worse idea. It's the Mercedes of the vans after all, so it shouldn't be dead-unreliable and prone to rust like notjing else on the planet, with a below-awful finish...
The current Vito is better, but it still isn't a really convincing car...
The Vaneo is also quite ugly. At least it's very dependable and reliable like every MB should be.
I own the current viano 115 cdi
Yes its not the best mb
But its a very practical vhechile and does its job perfectly its also very ecomomical the interior could have been better yes but i have had no problems with my car its reliable and now has 75000km.
When we go out me and my family have a great time when the new shape comes out in a few years i will buy one
Back in those days there weren't many minivans that were good-looking. The V-Class was one of the few that was IMO.
Nowadays you can't even look at it anymore but back in the day it was relatively elegant.
It doesn't really have to be. It's used as a transport or delivery van and the current Vito has been proven to be very reliable, so in effect it does its job ok. I doubt that the businesses buying the Vito really care about comfort or refinement.
The Viano on the other hand is the car that should be convincing. From my experience with it, it's not bad at all. The diesel engines are a bit loud in it and the 3.5 V6 version is totally pointless, but other than that, it's decent overall.
I don't know Chris I was looking at the V6 Executive edition the other day and it's a killer van. Black with those sport looking rims it is really a hot van - not to mention the V6 engine. I don't know if this is the exact same name of the van because I was looking for some pictures on the net and couldn't find any.
Well, I am claiming it is "pointless" from an average European point of view. A van isn't meant to be sporty or fast. The only redeeming quality this V6 Viano would have is that it refined. That's about it. In terms of keeping costs low, the diesels are much better suited, despite being a bit rough and loud. :t-cheers:
You talking about this baby by the way?
Yes that is what I meant that is one killer van
And also I was thinking the 3.0 CDI V6 not the petrol one - now that is a win - win combination.
Also found this one on one of the used car market sites - but I don't think this is original MB this must be aftermarket:t-hands:
That's definitely not by Mercedes. Everything in that car is very Las Vegas, MB would lever expose a Samsung screen like that.
Wow, that one is stunning…and the front looks facelifted - like it is fitted with Xenons…