Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG (spy shots & info)

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  1. Giannis Global Moderator / Editor

    This suspension layout is not unique to the SLS, but it is used when space under the hood is really an issue. Here is an example taken from the Rover 2000:

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    Rover 2000 MacPherson derivative During WWII, the British car maker Rover worked on experimental gas-turbine engines, and after the war, retained a lot of knowledge about them. The gas-turbine Rover T4, which looked a lot like the Rover P6, Rover 2000 and Rover 3500, was one of the prototypes. The chassis was fundamentally the same as the other Rovers and the net result was the the 2000 and 3500 ended up with a very odd front suspension layout. The gas turbine wasn't exactly small, and Rover needed as much room as possible in the engine bay to fit it. The suspension was derived from a normal MacPherson strut but with an added bellcrank. This allowed the suspension unit to sit horizontally along the outside of the engine bay rather than protruding into it and taking up space. The bellcrank transferred the upward forces from the suspension into rearward forces for the spring / shock combo to deal with. In the end, the gas turbine never made it into production and the Rover 2000 was fitted with a 2-litre 4-cylinder engine, whilst the Rover 3500 was fitted with an 'evergreen' 3.5litre V8. Open the hood of either of these classics and the engine looks a bit lost in there because there's so much room around it that was never utilised.

    Hope I helped...

    :t-cheers:
    Giannis, Sep 5, 2009
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  2. MBZ Fan Well-Known Member

    I would like to draw a warning for everyone:for the sake of the unveiling moment of the new SLS AMG, please stay away from any temptation of posting(too early...) whatever leaked photos your hands will get on.

    Mind that, please!
    MBZ Fan, Sep 5, 2009
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  3. dr Dunkel Global Moderator

    Well, almost. The horizontal beam in the middle of the front looks partially painted on the AB picture. Furthermore, the black lip on the lower end of the front appears to be missing in AB:s shot.

    But then again, that could well be down to the fact that the AB pictures are, by far, the worst pictures taken in modern time.
    dr Dunkel, Sep 5, 2009
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  4. Wunderkind Well-Known Member

    There must be a reason why the upright springs/double wishbones setup is not used in the eDrive version of the SLS.

    The most likely reason for this drastic change is the space needed for the electric motors and gearbox (one for the front-end and one for the rear-end) for the eDrive SLS. The original upright springs/double wishbones would leave little or no space for the electric motors and the accompanying gearbox and necessitates the horizontal spring set-up. I wonder if the front wishbones will also give way to simpler MacPherson struts................................

    The horizontal spring set-up is not common in cars. But they are quite common on many (Tamiya) radio-control cars when height is an issue and rigid packaging for the front suspensions is required.
    Wunderkind, Sep 5, 2009
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  5. RikfromBelgium New Member

    stunning beautiful looking car, only thing I don't like are those hideously vulgar side-vents, but just a looker, nonetheless :bowdown:
    RikfromBelgium, Sep 5, 2009
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  6. klier Member

    What do you mean with almost? It's exactly the same car, bar some trim options and extremely small details.

    But most of us know that all along....
    Stunning car btw, really looking forward to this one :D
    klier, Sep 5, 2009
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  7. Merc1 Premium Member

    Now we can clearly see this wasn't the real car.


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    Merc1, Sep 5, 2009
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  8. south Well-Known Member

    I don't think the nose height is the reason for that layout. It's rather a packagin issue. As we know, there are two electric engines working in line of the front axle, each of them powers one wheel and the additional power electronics. So height might not be the reason, but width. I don't see how they could have fitted the springs vertically.

    EDIT: I just read Wunderkind's post. Sorry for spamming. ;)


    Best regards,
    south
    south, Sep 5, 2009
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  9. Deutsch Well-Known Member

    Low, wide and mean. What should be the definitive look for a sports car. Stunning indeed.
    Deutsch, Sep 5, 2009
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  10. bmer New Member

    Huh? :confused:

    The car in the AutoBild pics is clearly the pre-production car. It's probably in either photo shoot or in showroom for final evaluation before production.
    If there are differences then it's due to trim options or they changed small details for the production car at the last minute.
    bmer, Sep 5, 2009
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  11. LaArtist Premium Member

    Ahh so damn perfect..
    4 days to go:D
    LaArtist, Sep 5, 2009
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  12. Shining Star Contributing Member

    This car will have so much road presence. It's the most stunning car from MB I've ever seen.
    :t-drive::t-cheers:(y):banana::icondrool
    Shining Star, Sep 5, 2009
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  13. Merc1 Premium Member

    Then that doesn't make it the real deal. Clearly the front air intakes are different for one, so it its just a best guess at best as to what the final car looked like, not the real thing.


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    Merc1, Sep 5, 2009
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  14. shonguiz Well-Known Member

    It's the real car, the real thing just as were the E class and the A8. :D
    shonguiz, Sep 5, 2009
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  15. Cashmere Well-Known Member

    [IMG]
    Cashmere, Sep 5, 2009
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  16. conan_55 Banned

    Will it be available in RHD, or like the SLR it will be only LHD ?
    conan_55, Sep 5, 2009
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  17. Wunderkind Well-Known Member

    I believe it will be available in right-hand drive. The SLS architecture underpins the next SL and must therefore be designed for both LHD and RHD.

    Earlier pictures of the front axle looks like it will be the case.
    Wunderkind, Sep 6, 2009
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  18. m-power Well-Known Member

    [IMG]

    :banana:
    m-power, Sep 6, 2009
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  19. Shining Star Contributing Member

    So...very...close!

    Can't wait!
    :t-cheers:
    Shining Star, Sep 6, 2009
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  20. Centurion Contributing Member

    That red is looking very seductive as in Alfa 8C and Ferrari 458.
    Centurion, Sep 6, 2009
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