Mercedes-Benz readying E300, C300 sedans with 248hp V6?

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  1. -=Hot|Ice=-

    -=Hot|Ice=- Well-Known Member

    http://www.germancarforum.com/mercedes-benz-readying-e300-c300-sedans-with-248hp-v6.html
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  2. Merc1

    Merc1 Well-Known Member Premium Member Contributing Member

    Mercedes has needed an entry level E to combat the 528i for years. The E300 is perfect for the job. Mercedes took the easy/cheap way out though, they just de-tuned the 3.5L V6 to 248hp, but either way the C300 needed it.


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  3. Nicks

    Nicks Active Member

    In Europe we had E280/E300 with 231 hp for years.
  4. Merc1

    Merc1 Well-Known Member Premium Member Contributing Member

    I mean in the U.S. of course.


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  5. merc4

    merc4 Active Member

    Nothing new, in Europe there already is E300 with 3,5 V6 on offer. According to jesmb.de, the facelifted E class will get 3 variants of a 2,0 R4 turbo engine - 184PS, 211PS and 252PS. 3,5 V6 turbo in E400 should have 340PS and 450NM.
  6. tennmb

    tennmb Well-Known Member

  7. Wolfgang

    Wolfgang Well-Known Member GCF Guru Contributing Member

    2012 Mercedes-Benz C300 4Matic Luxury Sedan: Review notes

    A high-value, entry-level luxury sedan

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    By: Wes Raynal on 7/11/2012

    EDITOR WES RAYNAL: Personally, I think the 2012 Mercedes-Benz C300 is a class act. It's well built, feels solid like a tank, is fast enough (barely), has good grip with AWD—overall it's a nice smallish car. I have not driven the new BMW 3-series yet, so at present this is my favorite small German sedan. Perhaps the 3-series will change my mind, but if it rides on BMW's dreadful run-flat tires :eek: , I doubt it.

    The car felt fairly nimble considering that it has AWD. But it really shines out on the freeway, where it charges forward so smooth and steady and sure-footed (for a small car), the next thing you know you're going a bit too much over the speed limit. It's the solidity and smoothness; it drives like a much bigger car. Does that mean it's a little soft? A little wafty? Perhaps, but at my advanced age I find I like that more and more.

    My only beef is that back-seat room is a little tight. With five-foot-eight-inch me in the driver's seat and a teenager behind me, legroom is tight back. For short trips it's fine. On longer ones, I'd probably here some whining.

    EXECUTIVE EDITOR ROGER HART: This C-class was a joy to spend some time with. The overall comfort level is quite high, and the only ones who might complain would be those stuck in the back seat. As a daily driver used for commuting to and from the office, this car is perfect. I didn't find the AWD to really hamper the handling or feel of the car, and in fact, if one was using this as a daily driver anywhere in the snowbelt, having it would be confidence-inspiring. The 3.0-liter V6 is adequate; you won't win many light-to-light drag races, but the benefit is average fuel economy in the mid-20s.

    This car seems a bit stouter than the previous-gen car, a little more robust. That should give buyers some confidence that the thing will last. Previous-generation Cs had some issues with that (see our final report on a long-term C-class wagon as just one example), but this thing is tight, with excellent panel gaps all around and an interior that is simple and straight-forward—once you get the hang of operating the COMAND system.

    I was surprised that this car didn't have a backup camera as it has the standard navigation/infortainment screen, and as far as options, that was the only thing missing. For a car priced in the low $40,000, I think this represents real value in the entry-level luxury segment, and I'd love to have a Baby Benz in my garage.

    ROAD TEST EDITOR JONATHAN WONG: The C-class coupe was a new addition to the lineup for the 2012 model year, but the sedan also enjoyed a light update. From a driving standpoint, the seven-speed automatic transmission was updated to be more responsive, more fuel efficient and quieter, and it does perform well. When teamed with this V6, it offers crisp shifts and cracks off downshifts almost immediately after you squeeze the throttle to speed up.

    Past C-class cars were a letdown in almost every area, but I've become a fan of the current model. Build quality in the interior is much better, with nice materials, and the exterior styling is handsome and clean.

    It's also become a decent handler, displaying respectable grip in corners and decent steering feel and response. One thing Mercedes still needs to work on is the brake-pedal feel that is still too squishy for my liking. In C300 form, this car is still more of an around-town cruiser than a corner carver, which is fine. It's very comfortable for daily use, with a suspension that absorbs bumps beautifully and a cabin that is well isolated from unwanted noises.

    This car still doesn't have the reflexes of a BMW 3-series, but it has closed the gap a whole lot, and it's something that you can still have a fair amount of fun with if you throw it around. I just wish Mercedes still offered a manual transmission as it used to back in the old days. That's about the only thing I miss about the old C-classes.

    2012 Mercedes-Benz C300 4Matic Luxury Sedan

    Base Price: $38,895
    As-Tested Price: $43,980
    Drivetrain: 3.0-liter V6; AWD, seven-speed automatic
    Output: 228 hp @ 6,000 rpm, 221 lb-ft @ 2,700-5,000 rpm
    Curb Weight: 3,737 lb
    Fuel Economy (EPA/AW): 20/23.3 mpg
    Options: Premium I package including SiriusXM satellite radio, iPod/MP3 media interface, 10-way power driver's seat with three-position memory, power-adjustable steering column, split-folding rear seats, heated front seats and Harman/Kardon LOGIC7 surround-sound system ($2,500); diamond white paint ($1,515); mbrace in-vehicle services ($660); luxury sedan package including luxury styling, Mercedes-Benz star on hood, 17-inch alloy wheels with all-season tires, luxury interior and Burl Walnut wood trim ($410)

    Read more: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120711/carreviews/120719979#ixzz20KsSzIF9

    :)
  8. Merc1

    Merc1 Well-Known Member Premium Member Contributing Member

    Autoweek is really sub standard publication at this time. The title says 2013, yet the car and the specs are a 2012 model.

    They're clueless.


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  9. Wolfgang

    Wolfgang Well-Known Member GCF Guru Contributing Member

    Oops. Corrected the title. ;)


    Here are the 2013 models.

    C-Class Sedan & Coupe (on-sale: July 2012)
    • Features standard mbrace2. New AMG Sports Package Plus includes enhanced exhaust tuning, special sport interior with contrasting seatbelts, 18" 7-twin-spoke wheels and- on coupes- revised front suspension. DISTRONIC PLUS now available as a stand-alone option.
    • C250 Coupe & Sport/Luxury Sedan: direct-injection 1.8-liter 4-cylinder turbo (201 hp, 229 lb.-ft.)
    • C300 4MATIC Sport/Luxury Sedan: new direct-injection 3.0-liter V6 generating 248 hp and 251 lb-ft of torque (previously 228 hp/221 lb-ft) including new ECO Start/Stop and standard 4MATIC all-wheel drive.
    • C350 Coupe & Sport Sedan: New ECO Start/Stop on direct-injection 3.5-liter V6 (302 hp, 273 lb.-ft.). Available 4MATIC all-wheel drive on coupe.
    • C63 AMG Coupe & Sedan: features hand-built naturally-aspirated 6.3-liter V8 (451 hp, 443 lb-ft), AMG 7-speed MCT and 18-inch twin 5-spoke alloy wheels. Optional AMG Development Package yields 481 hp.
    • http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/06/mercedes-benz-usa-details-its-2013.html
  10. Wolfgang

    Wolfgang Well-Known Member GCF Guru Contributing Member

    The C300 is not yet listed for MY2013?

    2013 C-Class:
    • C250 sport sedan: $35,350
    • C250 luxury sedan: $35,770
    • C350 sedan: $41,400
    • C63 AMG sedan: $59,800
    • C250 coupe: $37,800
    • C350 coupe: $43,200
    • C350 4Matic coupe: $45,200
    • C63 AMG coupe: $62,330
    Although the new GLK diesel is already included:

    2013 GLK-Class:
    • GLK350 2WD: $37,090
    • GLK350 4matic: $39,090
    • GLK250 4matic Bluetec: TBD
    http://www.benzblogger.com/2012/07/...e-cls-cl-e-g-gl-glk-m-s-sl-and-slk-class.html
  11. mini_cooper4

    mini_cooper4 Well-Known Member

    That engine will only be good for tuners :)
  12. Wolfgang

    Wolfgang Well-Known Member GCF Guru Contributing Member

    Now included. :cool:
    • C300 4matic sport sedan: $38,950
    • C300 4matic luxury sedan: $39,360
    http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-C/model-C300WZ4
    http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-C/model-C300W4
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