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hoffmeister_fan Well-Known Member

Just_me said: ↑

New details found on the net.

2-seated
800hp
KERS

McLaren P12

Thought I'd also share the English version.

McLaren P12 (2013): CAR's scoop on the F1 successor | Secret New Cars | Car Magazine Online

Also, I say boo to no 1+2 config like the original F1. That was part of the car's charm.

hoffmeister_fan, Jan 23, 2012

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Soup Well-Known Member

Soup, Feb 8, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

Just like it is IMPOSSIBLE to build another BMW M3 CSL, Honda NSX and Ferrari F40, to name a few, it is IMPOSSIBLE to build another McLaren F1.

Levi68, Feb 8, 2012

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Centurion Contributing Member

Levi68 said: ↑

Just like it is IMPOSSIBLE to build another BMW M3 CSL, Honda NSX and Ferrari F40, to name a few, it is IMPOSSIBLE to build another McLaren F1.

I would add Porsche Carrera GT to that list. We now live in an electronic era and man is getting ever more disconnected from the surface beneath the tires.

Centurion, Feb 8, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

Centurion said: ↑

I would add Porsche Carrera GT to that list. We now live in an electronic era and man is getting ever more disconnected from the surface beneath the tires.

Well I mentioned only a few, but I should also have mentioned the Carrera GT, I love this car, I even have a scale model. However good the 918 Spyder will be, I don't think anything from Porsche will be better than the Carrera GT, though very good cars like the 911 GT3 (991) and the Cayman S (981) are on their way. From all, I only see Ferrari that may bring out a better car than the Enzo as they are staying faithful to the initial concept: mid-rear NA V12 in CFRP chassis.

Levi68, Feb 8, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

McLaren P12 to be Revealed at the 2012 Monaco Grand Prix

Sources suggest that McLaren’s F1 successor will be unveiled at this years Monaco Grand Prix. The event runs from the 24th to the 27th May. The new car is known at the moment as the P12 and will be the second model in McLaren Automotive’s line-up. Whilst the debut is expected at the classic Formula 1 street race, it won’t go on sale until at least 2014.

We’ve already heard a fair bit about McLaren’s flagship model. Designed by McLaren’s chief designer Frank Stephenson, the British sports car will have dramatic styling and a two-seat configuration unlike the car it succeeds. Aside from the MP4-12C, Frank Stephenson’s other works include the new MINI, the Maserati MC12, Ferrari F430 and the Maserati Quattroporte.

The powertrain of the McLaren P12 will be borrowed from the McLaren MP4-12C. The power output of the 3.8 liter twin-turbo V8 will get an upgraded to as much as 800 horsepower. It should also be coupled with a kinetic energy recovery system (KERS) system, inspired by McLaren’s experience in Formula 1 racing. Speculation puts McLaren’s target top speed for the P12 at 260mph. With a target weight of 1,140 kg (over 600kg’s lighter than the Bugatti Veyron) this sounds entirely possible.

No mules have been spotted yet that we know of, however, we are told that McLaren dealerships have already seen the car. Production should be limited to limited to 500 cars, with an exclusive price tag of $ 1.56 million. We can’t wait to see it!

Update: The Mclaren spokesperson has stated to us that the information suggested in this story is purely speculative. They have always communicated that they would launch at least one new model or derivative per year but they have not confirmed any model or when this will be. The render shown here was published on the front page of CAR magazine. It is just a render and not an official representation of the upcoming P12.

I think it is quite possible. The McLaren F1 was revealed at the same occasion exactly 20 years ago.

I think this "P12" will unfortunately not be a worthy F1 successor. The F70 will be a better one, especially with it NA V12 sound which will have nothing to do with the FI V8 sound.

Levi68, Feb 28, 2012

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Cashmere Well-Known Member

Ron Dennis reveals that new Mclaren wont chase speed record.

Reclaiming title of world’s fastest car isn’t on the agenda for Britain’s supercar brand.

McLaren boss Ron Dennis has revealed the company’s new supercar won’t be as quick as its legendary F1 from the 1990s – at least in terms of top speed.

Speaking at the opening of the new Trivett McLaren dealership in Sydney last night, Dennis revealed more details about the spiritual successor to the F1, including a May unveiling. He says trying to beat the F1’s top speed of 391km/h, or the new record holding Bugatti Veyron, isn’t a goal.

“[The MP4-12C] will go around any circuit in the world faster than an F1,” Dennis says. “Don’t get fixated by top speed. That’s the first thing you have to discard in today’s society.”

Instead, he promises to reveal the world’s most technologically advanced supercar to take on rivals from Ferrari, Porsche and Lamborghini.

“What you’ve got to have is a complete package of performance,” he says. “You’ve got to embrace technologies that are out there that are accepted, and some that don’t even exist. I can tell you our next car has many things on it that don’t exist at the moment.”

“It will be a relatively low volume, between 300 and 500, car that will be more expensive and we hope will be hailed as the most innovative, creative supercar of its time,” he adds. “A big quantum leap and very different to this car [the 12C].”

He confirmed that the carbon fibre central structure of the 12C, dubbed monocell by the company, will be used on both the supercar and a new, cheaper model to sit underneath the 12C.

The McLaren-designed 3.8-litre twin turbo V8 engine will also be carried over, albeit with more performance; and possibly more capacity. It is likely to be coupled with a hybrid system to boost performance and cut fuel consumption.

But one thing that will be radically different to the 12C will be the styling. Dennis admits the 12C is deliberately conservative and says the new hero car of the range won’t be a shrinking violet.

“A level of aggressivity in the styling which is just now accepted as a need,” he says. “Trust me, it will look entirely different.”

The new car will also be more liveable than the F1, including using a conventional two-seater layout instead of the F1’s three-seater set-up. But he says what it lacks in purity it will make up for with more technology.

“There is so much legislation that ... making another F1 is extremely challenging,” he says. “You just couldn’t make it. To get it to be compliant [with the road rules] you’d never get it to that weight."

"So you’ve got to look at a completely different direction. You’ve got to embrace a lot of new technologies. If you’ve a supercar buyer now there are a range of must-haves now that you could never have in the F1.

“That’s just not accepted now. It’s too raw, too firm, too aggressive. The way to the future, and expectations from the customers, is a far greater level of sophistication.”

He did joke that given the money the F1 still demands from customers, he was tempted to build more.

“I was very tempted, I’ve got all the old tooling, why don’t I just knock out a few more! Now you’d get screams from the existing owners, but I thought ‘if I make 100..."

Cashmere, Mar 23, 2012

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hoffmeister_fan Well-Known Member

I know he's joking at the end there, but I wouldn't be opposed to some more F1s, especially if it'll come with that gem of a BMW 6.1L V12.

hoffmeister_fan, Mar 23, 2012

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-=Hot|Ice=- Well-Known Member

Indeed they are:

McLaren F1 replacement (spy photo) photo

-=Hot|Ice=-, Apr 20, 2012

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mark Hamilton New Member

OMG!! I'M IN LOVE :ylsuper: :0vr:

mark Hamilton, Apr 21, 2012

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Levi68 Well-Known Member

This is still going to be a tough rival. I think McLaren learned from the mistakes of the MP4-12C. It will be the worst sounding, toghether with the Huayra and Agera, because the 918 Spyder and F70 will get NA engines.

This time Ferrari and McLaren are going head to head with their new hypercars. Both are to be revealed this year. I gues both will run sub 7 min around the N-Ring. I don't think the 918 Spyder will be able to keep up. The Carrera GT on the other hand could keep up with the Enzo, MC12 and SLR, and was one of the best.

Levi68, Apr 21, 2012

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tristatez28lt1 Well-Known Member

tristatez28lt1, Apr 21, 2012

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mark Hamilton New Member

Some more spy shots!! McLaren F1 replacement (spy photo) photo The front The back :ylsuper:

mark Hamilton, Apr 24, 2012

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HighestOfHigh Global Moderator

HighestOfHigh, Apr 24, 2012

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-=Hot|Ice=- Well-Known Member

No doubt this car is going to be amazing. Can't wait for the Enzo to drop also so we can see some camporo's.

-=Hot|Ice=-, Apr 24, 2012

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Centurion Contributing Member

That's the evidence I need. It's really taking shape. You can see the Zonda-esque small canopy with a huge rear. Mclaren is back. Good on Ron Dennis to revive the company's car making credentials.

Centurion, Apr 24, 2012

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martinbo Global Moderator / Editor

That's the mother of all rear diffusers right there...

martinbo, May 2, 2012

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mc_blue Active Member

Loving the shape already although it is just a rough and ready mule at this stage.

mc_blue, May 6, 2012

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Gianclaudio Well-Known Member

It looks a bit 458 Italia when viewed from the side, or it's just me?

Gianclaudio, May 6, 2012

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tristatez28lt1 Well-Known Member

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1075999_mclaren-f1-successor-p12-rendered

tristatez28lt1, May 7, 2012

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