Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... When one opens a post with "Do you seriously believe what you write?" then you're obviously slinging the first insult. For the rest of the comments thrown in by both parties, I could care less about your little ongoing spat. What bugs me much more is how you Betty just decide to jump in boots-n-all and not expect repercussions. The naivety of it. Why don't you just open a post with "I disagree..." Once again you and your confrontational disposition started this. It's there for all to see. Do not respond to this post. This serves as a stern warning to change your "forum body language" or face consequences. EDIT: Oh and just for the record, I too don't agree universally with klier's assertion that when the price-point is close that BMWs are better than comparable Porsches. But there's a way to enter into that debate.