Discussion in 'New BMW Models / Vehicles' started by bombardier01, Jul 20, 2012.
First spy pics!
The source has been modified to say that it is the 3 GT. If it is, it is definitely a step up from the 5 GT.
That's the 3er GT.
3er GT indeed
The 3er GT looked different before, if this really is the 3er GT.
3er GT before:
With rear spoiler remember?
This new car looks very different to me. Much sleeker. Could it be a 2er GT/GC or is it too big for that?
I hope Scott or Eni can confirm to us what is this exactly, because if this is truly 3er GT, it does look different from earlier 3er GT prototype.
I agree that they look different but if it really is the 4GC... it looks too bulky to me...
To short wheel base for 4GC. Maybe klier is right that this is 2GC or some other 2 series variation.
Sure it's 3er GT.
You've been warned the 3er GT prototypes had been heavily masked! Now the camo is slowly peeling off, and the real shape is showing up. Although even this latest prototype still wears some tricky camo to fool the photographers. It's still NOT a FEP prototype! Winter tires during winter testing also contributed to the skewed proportions of the car (especially with combination with massive plastic camo & masking tape).
Different shooting angles also reveal different proportions.
As said before: 3er GT is not remotely as bulky as 5er GT, much sportier, much sleeker 6 leaner, much more dynamic in shape, much more a true 3er fastback (rather than a cross-overish RFK thingy labeled 5er GT).
Btw, compare eg. the very first spy photo of 3er GT with the latest one. And be amazed how cleverly camouflaged the early prototypes were!
Those are not the same cars to my eyes
Tricky, isn't it?
But they are. The early prototypes wore very voluminous plastic cladding (especially in the rear but also elsewhere) to appear bulky and massive. Yet I've warned you guys the real car underneath the cladding is much sleeker!
I'll find some spy pics showing how voluminous the initial camo was. Give me a few minutes.
Check the huge gap behind the camo around tail lights & flanks - and mind the real panels underneath. Not to mention the massively masked D-pillars, and the fake panels covering front & rear doors (check the stapling in the last photo ... the dots on the fake panels) ...
You've been told before the 3er GT won't be just a shrunken 5er GT although the heavy camo mimicked the 5er GT design.
And you can see now yourselves 3er GT isn't just a mini 5er GT. And wait a bit more to see the photos of FEP prototypes emerging in the streets - revealing the real lines & silhouette of the car. Although still covered to mask the headlights & tail lights, the kink, the bumper designs etc Yet some styling cues are shared with 5er GT though - to give GT line it's own family character, separating it from other lines.
I can confirm this is the BMW 3er Gran Turismo.
The car you have seen and I did mention so is heavily camouflaged to disguise the more sleeker roof-line for BMW's rival to the Audi A5 Sportback , the whole rear end of the previous camouflaged cars is actual a mold taken from the 5er GT and placed on the rear of the car therefore giving the direct impression of a similar concept and resulting anti-5er GT fan-boy hatred.
There are pictures of the prototypes with their hatches open and you can see the overhang of the disguise hanging down.
But remember this is not the first time BMW have intentionally fooled you. Do you remember the first prototypes of the BMW X6? How BMW hid the sleeker bullet shape under a more upright SAV disguise , something similar has been adopted for the X4 which you will see very soon. Disguising new models has become quite an art form now at BMW. They actually vacumn mold complete parts such as the 5er GT and shrink it around the 3er GT. The first FWD 1er CST is completely covered in these panels under the camouflage to disguise its more typical BMW shape.
I say it is very good for extensive debate.
It is not the 4er Gran Coupe because as BMW design has already commentated on why they do not like using extra quarterlights after the rear doors on four door sedan models.
You will see the Gran Coupe 4er around the end of the year but before that we will see the FEP F32 and expect to see FEP 3er GT's even sooner as they have started to come out of the FIZ for final testing.
So now that the true 3er Gran Turismo has been unmasked...
Does that mean there will be doubters now embracing the concept?
Extra windows you mean?
Not sure if I understand otherwise...
And this thread should be merged with the existing 3er GT thread.
I should admit that this looks way better than the 5GT
Good job BMW! Show us some 4ers now!
More or less this is what you can expect.
Does this meet with approval ?
Think of it as a concept that blends the sporting character of a 3er with the extra flexibility and attention to detail of the 5er GT. BMW are expecting this car to be highly successful especially with first time BMW owners and existing owners who have grown out of the need for a 3er Sedan but do want an SAV or extra utility of the Touring.
The 3er GT will launch with both four cylinder petrol and diesel engines. An M-Sport Packet will also be available.
Off the record but BMW have seen an increase on 5er GT orders in Europe now that it is available in the 520d Gran Turismo.
Yes. GT cars have an extra side window behind the C-pillar - and consequently a D-pillar (with kink). So just like eg the SAVs/SACs & Tourings. While sedans, coupes & gran coupes are without extra side window & with no D-pillar: the kink in incorporated in the C-pillar.
Btw, beside the masking tape and fake headlights & tail lights there is still same plastic cladding used: nose, hood, front fenders, upper part of front & rear side doors, and the boot lid (around the tail spoiler & license plate holder).
the more I look at this car, the more differences I see. It seems the roof is lower & the trunk is longer. And the 4er-prototype front bothers me a lot. But it's certainly a 5dr fastback not 4dr coupe ... Is it possible we are looking at 5dr 4er GT - in the Audi A5 manner?????? Since a 3er GT revision in this stage of development is highly unlikely.
With 2er Gran Tourer / Active Tourer 5dr coupe coming ... perhaps a 4er will bring a similar car of model as well.
Now I'm completely in the dark. Thankfully I'm heading for Munich next week, so ... I'll try to find out something.
OMG even BMW is confused
Isn't that the new normal?
This car sits too low, the roof line is too low to be 3er GT!
Also, look at the door panels styling. It's the same as seen on 4er Coupe prototype! And the front is identical as well.
It's definitely a 4er-based vehicle! This could indeed be a 4er GC / GT prototype! Yet the kink & D-pillar somehow indicate a 5dr fastback layout (ala Audi A5 SB). Will they badge it GC or GT???
So, I stand corrected! It's not a 3er GT prototype but 4er GC /GT one!
Sorry for all the confusion.