BMW M5 F10 - Test Drives/Reviews

Discussion in '5 Series' started by Merc1, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. Deckhook Well-Known Member

    approx. 640hp and 800Nm if the loss is accurate which sounds low to begin with cause as far as I'm aware a DCT has more loss than a traditional manual. (y)
  2. chonkoa Well-Known Member

    Me too, I wonder the last time that Dyno was calibrated.
  3. chonkoa Well-Known Member

    I find that hard to believe as well, I wonder when that Dyno was last calibrated..
  4. chonkoa Well-Known Member

    And how did you arrive at that number?
  5. Deckhook Well-Known Member

    563hp and multiple by 1.14 for the 14% though it may be that this should be slightly less when calculating back which is why I wrote approx.

    Can't be arsed to do the calculations properly but I think it's roughly between 630-640hp.
  6. chonkoa Well-Known Member

    Pardon the double post, problem with the internet speed..
  7. chonkoa Well-Known Member

    I guessed as much, which is the mistake most people make.
    In reality the parasitic losses are not a fixed percentage but an offset.
  8. Deckhook Well-Known Member

    I'm sure Monster or someone similar could get a more accurate figure.
  9. Sunny Well-Known Member

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  10. Deckhook Well-Known Member

    ^ It would take a total nut job not to be impressed by how capable the M5 is, it seems all the abilities of the old car have been turned up to 11 with the new one.
  11. K-A Banned

    3.7 seconds 0-60 is incredible for such a huge barge. I remember in the 90's when the 911 Turbo broke 0-60 in under 4 seconds, it seemed otherworldly, and after all this time, when any car crosses that mark, it still seems unfathomable.
  12. -=Hot|Ice=- Well-Known Member

    What's even more impressive is the fact that a C63 is able to keep up with it to 60. They're dead even on paper.
  13. Kowalski Well-Known Member

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  14. klier Member

    Yes, that's even more impressive :roll eyes:

    It's completely off topic, and secondly, you're comparing an apple with a pear. Yes, they're both fruits.
  15. Merc1 Premium Member

    We're now that much closer to U.S. pricing and options. Saw the M5 again this Saturday at the Dallas autoshow. The options list is arm-long. The rep on hand said it will like base for 95K, here in the U.S. It also appears that M5 (if not the regular 5-Series) will get a B&O sound system option for 2013 production. The waiting is sickening.


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  16. Just_me Well-Known Member

    M5 manual gearbox testdrive.

    Enthusiasts say a manual gearbox will help you to feel more connected to the driving experience, which is true to an extent. But modern autos are now so fast and smooth that the balance of power has shifted. While the manual M5 is well engineered and a fun challenge to drive, the seven-speed dual-clutch is better – on road and track.

    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/5-series/59927/bmw-m5-manual
  17. Levi68 Well-Known Member

    What I have been saying since the beginning. The F10 is no E39.
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  18. Kowalski Well-Known Member

    Why the Active Cruise Control is not available for the M5? The E63 AMG is available with Distronic Plus and don't give me the excuse that "It's an M thing. Or to put it in another way.... Would you like to drive?", because the Panamera Turbo is available with Adaptive Cruise Control.
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  19. Human BMW's my Brand

    BMW M5 manual

    The BMW M5 is now available with a traditional six-speed manual gearbox in the US

    Verdict 4 STARS
    Enthusiasts say a manual gearbox will help you to feel more connected to the driving experience, which is true to an extent. But modern autos are now so fast and smooth that the balance of power has shifted. While the manual M5 is well engineered and a fun challenge to drive, the seven-speed dual-clutch is better – on road and track.
    Manual gearboxes are becoming increasingly rare in performance cars these days. But BMW hasn’t forgotten those who prefer to change gear – in the US market at least. Buyers there can choose a six-speed manual transmission for the M5 super-saloon as a no-cost option. We headed to the Laguna Seca circuit in California to see how it stacks up against the standard seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox.
    Engineering a transmission that can cope with 552bhp and 680Nm of torque isn’t easy, yet BMW has done a great job of keeping both the clutch and short-throw shift action smooth and relatively light. However, the auto is a better choice at lower speeds – by shuffling into a higher gear earlier, it smooths out that huge amount of torque.
    Surprisingly, it’s the same story after 10 laps of the track and several miles driving down a twisting California back road. The occasional jumpiness that even the best driver will get from a manual means you’re less confident about using the M5’s full performance.
    The six-speed manual does highlight the 4.4-litre twin-turbo V8’s incredible pulling power from low revs, though. On a fast B-road, unless you have to negotiate a very tight hairpin, you really can leave the car in third gear and let the endless torque do the rest of the work.
    When you’re not shifting gear, the driving experience is as good as ever. The M5 will leave most supercars standing and there’s a great muscle-car rumble from the exhausts. It’s also incredibly grippy and agile for a car that weighs nearly two tonnes.
    But if you want a manual M5, your only option is to import a left-hand-drive car from the US.

    Key specs
    Price: 90,795 Euros (£57,200)
    • Engine: 4.4-litre twin-turbo V8
    • Power: 552bhp
    • Transmission: Six-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
    • 0-60mph: 4.3 seconds
    • Top speed: 155mph
    • Economy: 29.5mpg
    • CO2: 232g/km
    • Equipment: Adaptive dampers, leather upholstery, keyless entry system, satellite navigation, optional 20-inch alloy wheels
    • On sale: US only
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    SOURCE: AUTO EXPRESS

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  20. Merc1 Premium Member

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