BMW Concept 1er tii "1ntensified Performance Orientation"

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We better make sure The Artist never gets to see this topic......Hell would break loose again !

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I was thinking a 135si with around 330hp?

When is the pressconference and where on the net?

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well i saw it..
and im gonna leave it at that..
you all know how great i think these one liner threads are

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I see this as a possible Concept

“There always must be space for improvement,” is the only answer we could coax from 1-series project leader Gerd Schuster about the probability of a high-performance M1 version of the 1-series. But we have reason to believe an M1 is in the works with a twin-turbo four-cylinder. It won’t necessarily have more horsepower than the 135i, but with sharper reactions and a lighter body and engine, the M1 would clearly be king of the compact-car segment.

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My dream scenario

Highreeving (+8000 rpm)
330-350 hp
- 100 kg less than standard 135i
Very wide fenders

:t-drive: :icondrool

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I spoke to a guy from bmw which is pretty high up the ladder. He would not confirm the M version of the 1 when i asked him. But he didn t denied either with a smile.

So we still have to wait.

Lets hope tokyo brings more answers

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It might have sharper reactions and lighter body and it would propably be the king of compact car segment but I doubt everything said about the engine.

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How about a roadster 1er version? How about that Z2 that someone was talking about??

I think that a roadster 1er is coming...SCOTT27 am I anywhere remotely close?

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Today's official press release by BMW (about Tokyo highlights) says nothing about any concept. Neither about X6 ActiveHybrid.

But ...

Since they've already confirmed X6 ActiveHybrid Tokyo appearence (in a previous PR) I assume a special PR on Tokyo BMW Concept highlights may be issued in the next days.

:t-cheers:

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I really really hope we get some special M version off the einser. After seeing some movies from the 135i on track i am not convinced. On track you can see the weight the car carries. And it isn t pushed hard already. I buy a smaller bmw because its nimbler carries less weight but i loose cabin space for it. No problem if i get a car that brings very good handling. But if i buy a smaller car loose cabin space and i still have a heavy car why buy a 1 series coupe then. 335i is only 40kg heavier. At 1350kg i would buy a 135i. Not at almost 1600kg.

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AMEN!

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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...topanel..1 .*

Sorry AdEvo but Edmund's Inside Line does not agree after driving the car Quote " Search if you will, but you can take it from us; there is simply no more accomplished car for $30,000 than the 2009 BMW 135i." and this one "The 2009 BMW 135i cuts right to the heart of what a BMW is meant to be about. You can argue about its appearance and complain about packaging, but in just about every other respect, it delivers a unique and exhilarating driving experience, which is what matters most."
:banana:

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nice journalists talk.

That s a guy talking who drives a 150hp fwd car on a daily basis from home to work. Yes of course he finds a 135i fantastic.

I have driven a lot of cars with horse power. And horse power is the first thing you get used too. A light weight good handling car brings the smile a lot longer on youre face believe me. I am fed up with the horse power wars between the manufactures.

Let bmw build a 3 doors hatch m version that would be perfect. I have a 130i myself now. It s almost perfect like i have it now.

It s just so easy for bmw to make something special from it by M.

A little wider wheel arches.
New M front and rear bumper.
Carbon roof.
Csl style seats
Limited slipp diff.
3.0 alu mag engine 265hp you can easy get 310hp from with some throttle bodies and a nice air intake. In a race class they have already 340hp from it.
light wheels.
Lighter engine hood.
130i is 1350kg now. If they could manage 1300 or lighter i would just be perfect.

then you have a winner.

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Ferrari F430 Scuderia weigh 1350 kg, thats impossible weight number for 135i, afterall 135i isnt meant for the track like the Scuderia.

1500kg, M version of 1er that I would like to see, below that is impossible unless its a CSL.

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Agree, but remember the 135 was never meant to be an M car, i.e. light, carbon fiber roof, wider wheel arches etc. As it is, I think its more than sufficient for its purposes. Also have a M sport 130i and would love a real M version of that hatch…

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Yes that would be perfect

135i coupe 306 hp turbo or a hatch 310hp atmo M version.

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Whoa, that's almost like M1/M2 CSL Concept! Interesting details like pedals from the Z4 Coupe Concept, special kidneys and a white(!) rev dial. Thanks, Dunkel!

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and tii badges on the dash
plus its definitely a turbo because the redline starts at "only" 6500 rpm or so

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that looks bloody stunning, love the new front intakes :icondrool

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well my eyes fooled me a bit on this one
but now the marketing strategy is a lot clearer
the M1 name is forever engraved and bolted to BMW's only (and hopefully not last) supercar
and thus cannot suit a small car even if point for point this "M1" will outmatch the older one
instead the focus is on drawing close paralells to the 2002 by reviving and enhacing the demonic sounding tii badge that made its halmark in the 2002 turbo of daddy's days
which makes sense to offer a non M tweaked turbo version of the current turbo 6 as a tii and keep development costs down, instead of having to develop a new atmo staright 6, given that the new Z4 will surely get the M3 V8
essentially capping the M family between the 3 and 6 variants