Discussion in '4 Series' started by SCOTT27, May 30, 2011.
BMW 4er Coupe and Cabrio.
Hmmm, has a hint of C Class Coupe in it, mixed with rear of the CLS.
Oh, that´s it, I knew I was missing something.
4er coupe is fine by me, but better NOT forget the 3er coupe. 3er coupe is needed for M3, and M3 not going to be replaced by M4. Ever.
Or 428i coupe and M3??? Yeah right :t-crazy2:
If they can make the cabrio work without a B pillar, why not on the coupe? Weight+cost? It's not like the cabrio can occupy wholly different price segment, plus it has a moving roof.
Cabrio has always been about the best looking boulevard cruiser and it's customer base is dominately female. Coupe is another story - Structural rigidity is important to all BMW Coupes and every coupe in the past couple of decades has retained a B-Pillar . The BMW 8er Coupe forgone a B-Pillar which lead to Wolfgang Reitzle, BMW's then head of R&D wanting to re-engineer the LCi with a B-Pillar as evident in the BMW M8 development model. Tests proved that the B-pillar equipped car, transformed the 8er but the early 90's economic crisis killed the idea as well as the M8 and Cabrio.
Which is why BMW always design each 3er Coupe with a B-Pillar. 3er Coupe customers love to drive and enjoy the sporting dynamics and composure by the 3er Coupe.
Take away the B-Pillar and you sacrifice some of that for unneccessary style , especially when the car is actually more than stylish enough.
A BMW Coupe will always have a B-Pillar.
That literally looks identical to a 3-Series.... What's the difference/point of this car, and how will BMW not expect it to cannibalize 3'er sales?
Edit: Quick research showed me that the 3 will be all Sedan variants, while the 4 will be Coupe? Chancy move.
AutoMotor Und Sport. This week have a BMW feature on the BMW 4er Coupe and Cabrio yes the 2 and 4 names are off of that shelf where they have been gathering dust for almost ten years. Also featured is the BMWi3 which receives it's Preview along with the BMWi brand this Friday live @ 1200 CEST. Prior to the public premiere at the IAA in Frankfurt in just over a months time.
Time has gone by quick, don't you reckon?
Here is the link for the Press Conference on Friday.
between already having the 1er and 3er, i dont see what the point of this thing is.. but if K-A is right and this will replace all 3er coupes, i will be the most pissed off man on the planet..
So, this is for real then. No more 3er coupe?
Those who think of buying a 3er coupe, better rush it a bit!
Luckily I already own the most beautiful non-M version. E92.
Changing the nomenclature for the coupes and cabriolets from 3 to 4 series (and doing same +1 for the ones in the 1 series) is old news. In fact, I was surprised the current range did not implement it.
We all know it's old news, and we had a LONG battle on this site over it. But it still stands that to go to 4 would erase a whole history of a car and try to write a new one. That and the fact that the M3 will be neutered.
The M3 will still be called the M3 apparently.
That makes even less sense to me, lol.
I have nothing against an M4, on the contrary it is better. The M3 E92 is the last NA M3 and M Car. Close this story by a last M3 CSL E92, and start a new story with a FI V6 M4 F32.
But that would only be the Sedan though right?
I think the "4-Series" Coupe will actually be called "M3" when it comes as an M car.... Which makes this all more nonsensical and ludicrous. It's like bringing the model "down" one for the sake of heritage.... just kind of messy.
I guess M and AMG are both completely confused at how to name their cars, with M-B using the "63" name for cars with 5.5L Turbo's. :rofl:
I thought the E90 was the last M3 sedan for now?
Don't think there will be one for the F30 generation, as BMW was not happy at all with the M3 sedan sales numbers.
The opposite actually; BMW and MB don't want us (the consumer) confused. Tech changes rapidly these days, and sticking another name on the same car every time is not an ideal situation either.
And it's not just the M and AMG models, the regular models have this 'disease' too. A 550i is no 5.0 liter, an S500 is no 5.0 liter and a 325i is no 2.5 liter (just to name a few)