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Old 01-08-2010, 10:43 AM   #76
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BMW will launch the new M5 in 2011, the super saloon variant of the F10-series new 5-series family. Our artist's impression reveals how the hot Five will look at launch next March, after a show debut in late 2010 or early 2011.

We have the full four-page lowdown from Georg Kacher in the latest January 2010 issue of CAR Magazine, but here are some nuggets to whet your appetite:

• 4.4-litre V8 bi-turbo
• 578bhp, 530lb ft
• 155mph limited top speed
• 0-62mph 4.4sec
• Unlimited top speed 188mph

That direct-injection 4.4 lump is the same engine you'll find under the hood of the X5 M and X6 M, but further tweaked by M Division to liberate more power. Forced induction makes it the first M saloon to be turbocharged.

Will there be a new BMW M5 Touring?

Not this time. Dog owners in a rush will have to shop at the neighbouring Audi or Mercedes showrooms for RS and AMG variants.

We interview Klaus Draeger in the new issue of CAR Magazine, and he discusses the need to downsize and explains how even the new M5 will benefit from Efficient Dynamics.

New M5 cleans up its act

Yes, even BMW's fastest saloon now concentrates on lowering its CO2. Internal targets are gunning for a 30% drop in emissions and consumption.

Find out exactly how BMW has achieved that and read about the latest Munich developments in active aerodynamics in the latest January 2010 issue of CAR Magazine, on sale now.

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Old 01-08-2010, 10:57 AM   #77
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^WOW..so hot..

Is there a pic of the front?

That engine will be a monster.. kinda sad that they arent making a new one from scratch as the tradtion is..but i guess we live in a diffrent world now..
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I have to give credit where it's due.. the new E63 has really had an amazing transformation from the W211. The AMG guys realised it wasn't all about hp and torque...I imagine gearing was changed, and from all accounts the chassis dynamics have been greatly improved. Great work by MB and AMG on the new E63!

As for the upcoming M5.... with the forced-induction, it's gonna have an amazing bhp/L figure, far ahead of any M5 before it, and certainly superior to its competitors. I'm not that well informed on engine output, so my question is: how is it that BMW produce an engine which achieves such high hp figures with only a 4.4L TT engine?
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^magic

Its the TT part that does it.. its not easy even with TT..but it can be done..

I belive MB will update the E63 with the FL of the E..just in time to match the new M5..
Should be E50 or 55 AMG..and have a Turbo 5l V8.. with about 580 hp
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(this could be a grey area as the M5 may have a CFRP).
I think that's pretty much been confirmed by SCOTT that the new M5 will indeed have a CFRP roof.
But you do make a good point about the Panamera most likely having a lower center of gravity, but you never know when it comes to BMW and M-Division. Surprises comes standard.
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Report: 578-HP For 2011 BMW M5



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BMW CEO Norbert Reithofer has previously revealed that future BMW powertrains will be downsized in an effort to improve fuel-efficiency and reduce emissions--and that even the hallowed ‘M’ division would be affected by the new wave of environmental consciousness sweeping the automaker. BMW has always stood by the high-rev philosophy for delivering power from its M engines but all that is changing.

We’ve already seen the potential of a twin-turbocharged V-8 engine in the X5 M and X6 M performance SUVs, and according to a new report the same force-fed engine is destined for the 2011 BMW M5--albeit, an uprated version of it.

In the X5 M and X6 M the twin-turbocharged 4.4-liter V-8 M engine delivers 555-horsepower and 500-pound-feet of torque--enough to send the big SUVs from 0-60 mph in just 4.5 seconds.


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However, for the new M5, the engine’s output reportedly will peak at 578-horsepower and 530-pound-feet of torque--the same as the Audi RS6 but a significant 60-horsepower more than the E63 AMG.

Sending drive to the rear wheels will be a modified version of the M3's M-DCT dual-clutch system but a conventional 6-speed is likely to be offered as well. There will even be some EfficientDynamics technology on board as BMW is hoping for a 30% drop in emissions and consumption.

The 0-62 mph dash should take about 4.4 seconds, which is 0.3 seconds quicker than the current model. Top speed will be an electronically limited 155 mph but with this removed the new M5 should top out at 188 mph.

Performance will also be improved thanks to extensive use of lightweight materials including carbon-fiber and aluminum. The car’s construction will be a hybrid of an aluminum spaceframe for the front section and a traditional steel monocoque for the passenger compartment and rear. This will ensure a favorable front-to-rear weight distribution and improved handling. Up front will be an independent suspension with MacPherson struts, with a multi-link layout for the rear. Expect to see an unpainted carbon roof and more of the lightweight material possibly used for the boot and fender panels.
- Report: 578-HP For 2011 BMW M5 - MotorAuthority
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Was that some CEO statements at the end or pure speculation ? cause that's rather dissappointing. I know 0-200 could be better and M5 isn't really about straighline acceleration, but the competition is tough really, think in 3 years time.
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Speculation.
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Old 01-10-2010, 06:42 PM   #84
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Thank god, cause that would kill the fun of anticipation
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:08 PM   #85
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Didn't Just_me already posted the original CAR article with same information in F10 M5 thread?
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^ I think, but I thought this was a confirmation.
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Some new Autobild renderings. What we have seen with these renders The new M5 and the M1 will not offer the exact same aerodynamic packets as the M3.
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That is hot..!!!

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I know 0-200 could be better
Bro, you mean 0 - 100? 'Cause i don't see anywhere in that article a 0 - 200 time...

In any case, i'm more than satisfied with 4.4 time, but yes, i believe it can do better than that, 4.2 let's say...

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No actually I meant 0-200, the poor 0-100 can be due to RWD but 0-200 could be much better than E60 due to you know, power/transmission .. etc
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M5 E60 proven several times its faster to 200km/h than BMW claim. Trust me, next M5 is going to be quicker than BMW claims as well.
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Let's not forget that this is purely speculation, but we all know that German manufacturers always claim underrated performance and power figures.
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Let's not forget that this is purely speculation, but we all know that German manufacturers always claim underrated performance and power figures.

Yes, but we've heard 578 hp from two different sources now...it's a very specific number and because of that there may be some truth to it.....especially when Scott doesn't say anything about those numbers.
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Yes, but we've heard 578 hp from two different sources now...it's a very specific number and because of that there may be some truth to it.....especially when Scott doesn't say anything about those numbers.
Scott SAID almost 580 hp, so...
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Yes, but we've heard 578 hp from two different sources now.
Probably just copied the other source.
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Probably just copied the other source.
Yea, that crossed my mind after typing that post. It would be most logical and they all do that, so....
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As far as I remember the information in Autocar was for 578 "bhp" which should be about 586 hp, and also will the m5 have different front suspenssion than the standard 5 - MacPherson struts against double wishbone, and aluminium space frame for the front like the e60 ???
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:05 PM   #100
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Scott SAID almost 580 hp, so...
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