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Am I the only not surprised by the weight gain?

It's not the first time, for instance - the E60 M5 weighs 110kg more than the E39 M5. (1720kg vs 1830kg)

I see it now. That was a partially empty weight figure for the E39 M5. fully loaded it weighs a recorded 1833kg.

"Empty" weight by DIN standard:

E46 M3: 1495kg, 343PS (4.36kg/PS)
E92 M3: 1580kg, 420PS (3.76kg/PS)
Audi RS4: 1650kg, 420PS (3.93kg/PS) ... sedan!!!
CLK63 AMG: 1680kg, 481PS (3.49kg/PS)

E90 vs E92 ... E90 is 10kg lighter than comparable E92 (eg. 335i sedan vs 335i coupe).

E46 M3: 1495kg, 343PS (4.36kg/PS)

Damn. I never knew the E46 M3 is that light.

I was expecting this car to be really light, but that doesn't seem to be the case!

Wonder what else BMW can do in the future, will they go down the aluminium route, like Jaguar, and that have experience with RR!

there is already a lot of that going on: the roof is CF, the hood Alu, the structure Alu, the bumpers plastic, ...

there will be a lighter M3 CSL in the future. the new standard M3 seem to weight lower than the competition and thats a good sign.

Good PS's JM, could you do one in black please?

i tried it but it looked like crap, I couldnt get the colors right. not worth posting

Press Kit in various languages. . .

BMW Press Kit

^^The blue is hot but that mustard yellow color isn't my taste. Good chops though!

No worries, I can kind of imagine it, looks pretty hot in my mind!

german price: 66.650 euro

That doesn't sound so expensive, it's about £45,000 which is about £5,000 more than the E46 M3!

Although I'm sure we'll have to pay more as always!

How much does RS4 and S5 cost in Germany?

There are 4 different chairs to choose between. I wonder how these seats look like

S4: €55,600 (incl. 19% VAT) - 6-gang manual
RS4: €71,700 (incl 19% VAT) - 6-gang manual
S5: €55,900 (incl. 19% VAT) - 6-gang manual

So ... RS5 will cost around 72k Euro, while E90 M3 sedan will be less than 66k.

Did a few comparisons... didn't think it was worth putting it in the picture thread because these aren't even real. All have 19" wheels:

Alpine white:


Jerez Black:


Silverstone II:

check this link WHITE

BMW Deutschland

English version already in post #181.

Andreas, could you put this thread in order? Eg. making new thread - puting all crucial links, infos & pics in the first post of a new thread, move some posts from this thread to the new one ... ???


Pleaaaaaaase!

go here instead for full story

http://www.germancarforum.com/3-serie...bmw-m3-v8.html