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Old 12-09-2006, 11:54 AM   #51
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

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According to latest info 120i will come with 163PS, 120d with 177PS, 125i (I4 turbo) with 218PS, 130i with 272PS. And special edition 120si with (modified?) N45B20S engine.

I have confirmed info facelifted 520i is coming with 163PS, and 520d with 177PS ... So I guess same output for other models with same engines (eg. 320i/d, 120i/d, X3 2.0/d).

Also HPI N53 engine is coming in one displacement version only: 3.0L
In two variants: 272HP in x30i & 218HP in x25i. Later on some x25i N53 engines will be replaced with I4 turbo having same power output (eg. 125i).

Regarding 116i, 118i & 118d I can still only guessing:

116i ... 122HP / 129HP

118i ... 136HP / 143HP

118d ... 129HP / 136HP / 143HP
Why doesn't the 120i get the 170HP HPI engine which will be introduced with the E93? I see no reason for having another I4 variant. The current 120i has 150hp, the HPI 2l I4 has 170hp; why should BMW make a 163hp 120i without DI?

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Old 12-09-2006, 12:48 PM   #52
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Why doesn't the 120i get the 170HP HPI engine which will be introduced with the E93? I see no reason for having another I4 variant. The current 120i has 150hp, the HPI 2l I4 has 170hp; why should BMW make a 163hp 120i without DI?

Best regards, south

Sorry. My bad. I've converted kW to PS wrongly (I've multiplied 125 by 1.3 instead by 1.36). HPI 2.0L I4 engine will come with 125kW (= 170PS, of course).

It will of course be the same engine as the one in 320i (and also 520i).

Just like I listed in my model line list: 120i ... 170hp.

I hope it's fine now.
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

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Sorry. My bad. I've converted kW to PS wrongly (I've multiplied 125 by 1.3 instead by 1.36). HPI 2.0L I4 engine will come with 125kW (= 170PS, of course).

It will of course be the same engine as the one in 320i (and also 520i).

Just like I listed in my model line list: 120i ... 170hp.

I hope it's fine now.
Everything's fine with all the information you share!

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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

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Sorry. My bad. I've converted kW to PS wrongly (I've multiplied 125 by 1.3 instead by 1.36). HPI 2.0L I4 engine will come with 125kW (= 170PS, of course).

It will of course be the same engine as the one in 320i (and also 520i).

Just like I listed in my model line list: 120i ... 170hp.

I hope it's fine now.

Eni sorry for my questions...I am new and I am trying to learn since I am on the market for a BMW (1er) from May '07.

So will all 2litr engines be HPI with 170HP starting March 2007? And what about the 120si?

Finally...will the 125i (the turbocharged inline-4, 2.0) be released in March 2007 along with the presentation of the 1er 3dr? In other words...will we be able to purchase it from March onwards?

Thank you very much for your very useful and accurate posts...and sorry for the many questions.
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

The real thing?

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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

It may look 99% the same (I don't know) but this is a photoshop, no doubt about that.
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

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Still a PS. But air intake looks close.
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

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Still a PS. But air intake looks close.

With a little search...here's what I found...



Eni...is that picture like the real thing? I like the front bumper grill in the center...the way it follows the line from above.
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E81 3dr 1er official info is coming in week 2/2007 (Jan 8. - 12.).

"New" colors: Montego Blue, Patagonia Green, Carbon Black Metallic ...

USB socket (audio) ...

LED rear lights ...

Limited Sport Edition package ...

118i = 143PS
118d = 143PS
120i = 170PS
120d = 177PS
130i = 272PS

No 135i! Also no 116 for E81.
125i to come later ... I guess with 2er cabrio.


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No 135i!

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Re: SPY PHOTOS: BMW 135ti

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E81 3dr 1er official info is coming in week 2/2007 (Jan 8. - 12.).

"New" colors: Montego Blue, Patagonia Green, Carbon Black Metallic ...

USB socket (audio) ...

LED rear lights ...

Limited Sport Edition package ...

118i = 143PS
118d = 143PS
120i = 170PS
120d = 177PS
130i = 272PS

No 135i! Also no 116 for E81.
125i to come later ... I guess with 2er cabrio.


No 116i?

I wonder what effect would this have on the pricing of the 3dr.

Eni...any ideas on the pricing yet? Would the 3dr be cheaper than the 5dr? Or is too early to know?

Thanks for that great info!
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

EnI...

Is today the day??? ...
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It's a shame BMW didn't show us a pressrelese
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It's a shame BMW didn't show us a pressrelese

Why? Is the word out?

The day is not over yet...even if BMW releases the info today...I am assuming that all the web-sites will upload all info by tonight.

I am trusting EnI however...
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EnI...

Is today the day??? ...

I was said this week, not exactly Monday. Today BMW have issued a 2006 sales report.

Also: it happened many times I was said date / week "X" was the date for issuing the press release, but actually on that day / week pics & info were sent to media, and uploaded on mediapool.bmw site (not press.bmw site!).

But nevertheless - the presence of info / pics on mediapool.bmw means a leak is definitely going to happen sooner or later.

Stay alert!
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I was said this week, not exactly Monday. Today BMW have issued a 2006 sales report.

Also: it happened many times I was said date / week "X" was the date for issuing the press release, but actually on that day / week pics & info were sent to media, and uploaded on mediapool.bmw site (not press.bmw site!).

But nevertheless - the presence of info / pics on mediapool.bmw means a leak is definitely going to happen sooner or later.

Stay alert!

Fantastic! I know we can count on you...can't wait for the official pics!
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Fantastic! I know we can count on you...can't wait for the official pics!
According to the latest info I got the E81 PR embargo ends next week: on January 16th.

But expect leaked pics & info even before ...
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According to the latest info I got the E81 PR embargo ends next week: on January 16th.

But expect leaked pics & info even before ...
Thank you! I'll stay tuned!

Post something as soon as you have it...
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er

Duh ...

I mixed it again I guess (or my sources did).

So, obviously in week 2/2007 5er facelift + M5 touring info is coming, and in week 3/2007 E81 + facelift E87 is to come. And not vice versa like I was told (or like I heard).

But the point was made: both info would be here till mid-January.
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Duh ...

I mixed it again I guess (or my sources did).

So, obviously in week 2/2007 5er facelift + M5 touring info is coming, and in week 3/2007 E81 + facelift E87 is to come. And not vice versa like I was told (or like I heard).

But the point was made: both info would be here till mid-January.
Are you predicting any leak by the 19th?
One more question...I have read on an article that there will be a 123i...is that true?
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Since it's already official, i'm closing this thread.

Please continue discussion here: http://www.germancarforum.com/1-series/9760-official-pics-info-facelifted-bmw-1-series-3dr-version.html

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