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Old 07-22-2008, 07:54 AM   #1
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Updated iDrive for all 1er models







I have not found any pictures of the nav screen, which is supposed to be slightly different as well...please post them here...[thanks Ree!!!]

Also new engines for the cabrio:

118d: 4,9 liter diesel per 100 kilometer, CO2 129 gram per kilometer
123d: 7.5 sec 0-100 km/h
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:08 AM   #2
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

123d should be slightly faster than that, imo.

Thanks anyways, klier.

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Old 07-22-2008, 08:16 AM   #3
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

Okay, here we go! Looks great, in my opinion…



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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

So no pop-up screen now?
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:28 AM   #5
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

...thats sad, it really looks as if they have dismissed the pop up screen - i really liked it, it was a little bit of sci-fi everytime you press the start button...
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

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So no pop-up screen now?
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...thats sad, it really looks as if they have dismissed the pop up screen - i really liked it, it was a little bit of sci-fi everytime you press the start button...
I'm very happy with this. The old system looks much cheaper. This new one is nicely integrated. Very good, because I hate pop up screens

Aren't there more interior pics???
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

Two more photos!! Looks much more elegant and more like a quality product now!! Adds a lot to the interior in my opinion…but I wouldn't go for the nav-screen!! I love the composed interior design without any monitor.



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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

That's awesome Ree, nice find!!
Interior looks much better now. Great update

The improvement is pretty big:


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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

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...thats sad, it really looks as if they have dismissed the pop up screen - i really liked it, it was a little bit of sci-fi everytime you press the start button...
I agree - screen is nicer obviously, but it doesn't look like it fits properly in with the interior... but I'll reserve final judgement till I see the real thing.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:13 PM   #10
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

Gorgeous interior,CLC is a joke next to this.

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Old 07-22-2008, 05:20 PM   #11
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Gorgeous interior,CLC is a joke next to this.

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^ LOL,sadly it's the truth
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:08 PM   #13
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

Actually the exterior of the CLC is not that bad. It's ok. The interior is the bid proble. Other than that, the new 1er interior looks just awesome
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^ yeah i meant the interior of the CLC,i actually like the exterior but i'd never buy that car
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

Now thats hot! Im glad they got rid of the pop up screen. It wasnt even thin. Just a large, thick peice of plastic that popped up. Hell...they could have atleast made it flush. Kudos to BMW for axing it.
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

It's still pop up right? Just that it pops up in a nicer way and looks much more integrated. But honestly, the 1series has gone a long way from the initial version, people were complainning for its sub-japanese quality and materials.
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

It appears as though the screen might "roll over" to contour with the dash.

Either way, the display appears to be a vast improvement over the old one - which looked on par with a BestBuy aftermarket job.
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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

In the cabrio...beautiful little interior I must say.

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Now, that is a classy and beautiful interior.. Noone can deny that!

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Re: Updated iDrive for all 1er models

why they used green for the new Idrive .. i don't get it ..
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I still hate the wood on the 1 series, it looks so cheap.
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why they used green for the new Idrive .. i don't get it ..
Every menu has it's own color....just like iDrive now really....
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Every menu has it's own color....just like iDrive now really....

I thought so ... but most of pictures I so for this and then new 7 had green ... thanks anyways
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It's an eco-friendly menu, that's why it's green
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Well green is the most eye-friendly color
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