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Old 11-24-2005, 03:50 PM   #1
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Old 11-24-2005, 03:50 PM   #2
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

I liiiiiiiiiiike it! Coupe please!
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:06 PM   #3
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

gooooooooooooooooooooooodddddd!!

It really looks good. The rear is like VW Fox's though
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Is this for real?
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Is this for real?
100% real.
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:23 PM   #6
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

A3 and A3 Sportback 2 doors and 4 doors.
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

All this car needs is bigger rims and a lower suspension setup. One thing I'd advise BMW to do, would be to make the silver headlight surround on this car black. That would look killer!
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

I guess this isn't the most complicated car model of the world. If you have a four door you just take away one door and voila you have a new model to brag about. Audi did the same thing with the A3.
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

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I guess this isn't the most complicated car model of the world. If you have a four door you just take away one door and voila you have a new model to brag about. Audi did the same thing with the A3.
Doesnt Golf exist with 2 and 4 doors as well?
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

I wonder if BMW is going to do a 2 door 130i??
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:32 PM   #11
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

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I wonder if BMW is going to do a 2 door 130i??
why not? sounds like a great idea. IMO 2 doors feels more sportier than 4 doors so I think it would be a good idea for 130i .
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Yes there are indeed two versions of the golf. I don't know about you guys but I love two door coupes but I hate two doors hatchbacks.
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

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Yes there are indeed two versions of the golf. I don't know about you guys but I love two door coupes but I hate two doors hatchbacks.
I don't mind it at all. At least it doesnt' have the plain looking arse of the Golf!
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why not? sounds like a great idea. IMO 2 doors feels more sportier than 4 doors so I think it would be a good idea for 130i .
2 door or 4 door, BMW's are ALWAYS "more sporty"!
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

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I guess this isn't the most complicated car model of the world. If you have a four door you just take away one door and voila you have a new model to brag about. Audi did the same thing with the A3.
Except that with Audi the 3 door A3 came out before the 5 door Sportback...

[Here's a question: do you not think that a 3 door hatch looks sportier - generally speaking - than a 5 door?]

As for this 3 door 1 series, I guess it's been a while coming but does this signal the death knell for the 2 series coupe? Tine? Will there even be a 2er, and if so maybe it'll only be available as a cabriolet?

Now that I think of it, a beefed up, flared fender 2 door M1 might just be the shizzle.
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:27 AM   #16
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

I think the 3 door looks sport, just as sporty as the 5 door, but the 3 door will have to be given some time, as for most of us this is very fresh in our minds.
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

Both Luw and just_me are counting the doors all wrong. In a hatchback the doors are 3 or 5. In a coupe we have 2 doors and in a sedan 4 doors. So the A3 and 1 series have either 3 or 5 doors.
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

I like it, now bring on the 2+1 door 130 SE.
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

No need to be too pedantic about counting hatchbacks as 3/5 doors and sedans or coupes as 2/4 doors (no comments about CLS in this thread please). I agree that 3/5 doors is probably more widespread for hatches, but we all know what you mean when you say a 2-door hatch.

Anyhow, I actually like the 5-door Golf better. The rear three-quarter view of the 3-door looks really lumpy, since the window line slopes up. I also think the A3 Sportback (ie. 5-door) looks better than the 3-door A3. The 3-door looks very plain from the rear.

However, I reckon they should have made the 1er a 3-door all along. Not only does it suit the concept of it more, it also looks great! Well, as good as a 1er can look anyhow Seriously now, a M Sport Package version of a 3-door 130i would be killer.
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Nice pics, Tine! Thanks always coming thru!

I like them both, great design!
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

Scott answering my questions:

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1. When 3-door 1er will hit the markets?

In Germany the 3dr will be on sale about late April , early May.

2. Will the existance of this car anyhow influence decision of (not)building other variants of 1er: 2er coupe, cabrio, roadster, shooting-brake?

The product plan for the E8 platform calls for no overlapping with the 3er 's market. So with the 1er we can be adventurous - The success of the 1er means that we can enhance flexibility and create niche premium compact cars. That is why a sedan is (for now) out of the question as is a conventional wagon ( Touring) .
Confirmed for this product plan is a Coupe and a Cabrio (Cs1 Concept) - models that will appeal to the USA market where premium compacts are shunned.
A roadster is also expected. The most exciting will be a 3dr Touring coupe like the old 1600/2000 touring which along with the roadster is undergoing project evalutation , The touring is easily done as developed off the Coupe which will be flexible to accomodate the Touring and of course the cabrio body design.

3. Is it known yet which models will US market get?

For certain the Coupe and Cabrio and possibly the Roadster- Like I said models that will be more appealing to the U.S marketAnd of course the M variants..
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

I can also confirm That M1 is under developpement so Bye bye 135i ??
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I can also confirm That M1 is under developpement so Bye bye 135i ??
Could be.
Or 135i will be introduced as a top version until M1 emerge, and than be killed.
Or 135i will be offfered in hatch version, M1 in coupe & cabrio (if board goes with 1er badge for Coupe & cabrio instead of 2er).



I'm sure BMW still do not know what to do and that Introduction of turbo engines will cause some diffuculties to position the variants with turbo right.
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

Tine,

Thanks for asking the question I so desperately wanted to know the answer for!!!! You're awesome!
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Re: Undisguised 3-door BMW 1er spy pics!

I am pretty sure that the 3.0T will not be introduced on the 1series...
I mean the '30' is the top for the 1series, '35' top for the 3series with '50' top for 5 and 6series and '60' top for 7series... There is obviously a top 'standard' engine for each model and so I dont' see the '35' making to the 1series... And afterall, a 1series does not need such a powerful engine...
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